From: »Q« on
In <news:Xns9D178985718E1bearbottoms1gmaicom(a)news.albasani.net>,
Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote:

> =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?= <boxcars(a)gmx.net> wrote in
> news:20100206121655.7e887a83(a)bellgrove.remarqs.net:
>
> > In <news:Xns9D173B32FF83Bbearbottoms1gmaicom(a)news.albasani.net>,
> > Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote:
> >
> >> =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?= <boxcars(a)gmx.net> wrote in
> >> news:20100205215009.2fe73ada(a)bellgrove.remarqs.net:
> >>
> >> > In <news:Xns9D16316571F8Dbearbottoms1gmaicom(a)news.albasani.net>,
> >> > Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?= <boxcars(a)gmx.net> wrote in
> >> >> news:20100204213843.4aece9fe(a)bellgrove.remarqs.net:
> >> >>
> >> >> > In
> >> >> > <news:Xns9D15AB21B4885bearbottoms1gmaicom(a)news.albasani.net>,
> >> >> > Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?= <boxcars(a)gmx.net> wrote in
> >> >> >> news:20100204121317.5aa4c6f1(a)bellgrove.remarqs.net:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Maybe that is why you asked the question, but I think it's
> >> >> >> > more likely because you don't have anything more convincing
> >> >> >> > than saying "hogwash" to support your idea that once you've
> >> >> >> > bought a license for an app that app is freeware.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Windows is an operating system. You can buy additional
> >> >> >> software for it if the bundled software isn't adequate, or
> >> >> >> you can get a lot of good freeware for it...and Microsoft
> >> >> >> has some really good freeware you can choose from.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Simple enough.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Are you under the misapprehension that what you've just
> >> >> > written has something to do with your contention that some
> >> >> > apps from Microsoft are freeware despite users having to buy
> >> >> > licenses for those apps?
> >> >>
> >> >> Hmmm, something appears very wrong with your statement. Once you
> >> >> buy your computer, and choose an operating system, there is a
> >> >> lot of good freeware out there. If you choose to buy a Windows
> >> >> OS, there is a lot of good freeware out there for it, and
> >> >> Microsoft offers a good portion of it. Of course there is more
> >> >> freeware for Windows than any other operating system, well
> >> >> beyond what MS developed. This group likely wouldn't exist if
> >> >> it weren't for that fact as this group was likely developed
> >> >> because of that fact. Live with it Q.
> >> >
> >> > Are you under the misapprehension that what you've just written
> >> > has something to do with your contention that some apps from
> >> > Microsoft are freeware despite users having to buy licenses for
> >> > those apps?
> >>
> >> Buy my operating system and you will never have to pay for software
> >> again sounds pretty good to me.
> >
> > Are you under the misapprehension that what you've just written has
> > something to do with your contention that some apps from Microsoft
> > are freeware despite users having to buy licenses for those apps?
>
> Do you even realize you are misrepresenting the truth or are you just
> roboting?

If you're in possession of "the truth", why do you keep posting that
stuff that has nothing to do with your contention that some apps from
Microsoft are freeware despite users having to buy licenses for those
apps?

> You buy a license for the operating system which gives you the added
> benefit of choosing from a lot of freeware they offer because of it.

We were talking about apps you can't use without buying a license for
those apps, and you said those apps are freeware but you never got
around to supporting that strange opinion of yours.

> Simply repeating an untruth may work on some, but not me or even most.

I don't expect to convince *you* that commercial software sold to users
isn't freeware. I was just wondering if you had anything better than
saying "hogwash" to support your notion that it should be called
freeware.
From: »Q« on
In <news:Xns9D179469B79A0bearbottoms1gmaicom(a)news.albasani.net>,
Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote:

> =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?= <boxcars(a)gmx.net> wrote in
> news:20100206141717.2945d50d(a)bellgrove.remarqs.net:
>
> > If you're in possession of "the truth", why do you keep posting that
> > stuff that has nothing to do with your contention that some apps
> > from Microsoft are freeware despite users having to buy licenses
> > for those apps?

I've fixed your misquoting of me. Please don't do that any more,
Bottoms.

> How many times are you going to repeat the above falsehood.

How many times are you going to mistake questions for falsehoods?

And how many times are you going to erroneously accuse me of posting
alleged falsehoods without attempting to back up your accusations?

> How many license/s/ do you need to buy for the Windows OS?

I don't need to buy any licenses for Windows®, but thanks for the offer.

> Clear it up.

The futility of trying to clear anything up for you was established
here years ago.



From: Franklin on
za kAT wrote:

> On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:00:05 GMT, Franklin wrote:
>
>> It's a troll he's laying out: stoking a debate by playing dumb.
>
> Whether it started as a troll who knows, but that's what it's become. He
> always does this, because he can't just say 'I'm wrong'.

It doesn't matter to Bottoms if he's right or wrong, as long as he gets
attention.

From: Craig on
On 03/06/2010 10:18 AM, Phil wrote:
> Ive never YET found any freeware that needed a "liscenced Windows"

Internet Explorer, e.g.

--
-Craig
From: Craig on
On 03/06/2010 12:11 PM, Bear Bottoms wrote:
> Craig<netburgher(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in news:hmuaok$tc6$2(a)news.eternal-
> september.org:
>
>> On 03/06/2010 10:18 AM, Phil wrote:
>>> Ive never YET found any freeware that needed a "liscenced Windows"
>>
>> Internet Explorer, e.g.
>>
>
> Everything that runs on Windows needs the OS...

That's demonstrably false, BB. We talked about this already.

> ...which is licensed, to run.

There are any number of applications written for MSOS which can run on
top of other Operating Systems. A small subset of these applications,
such as Internet Explorer, requires that you have a Windows OS license.
This is a licensing requirement, not a technical requirement.

hth,
--
-Craig