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From: Joerg on 14 Sep 2006 11:59 Hello Yuriy, > >> Cadsoft Eagle is pretty good SW, not "bad new software". It is >> reasonably priced and very powerful. Also, it allows me to do sample >> layouts of critical sections, to give to my layouter so he knows >> exactly how I'd like it done. With OrCad I would have had to either >> buy a very expensive layout package > > $5K business related software is very expensive package for top paid > design engineer?????? > Not if you get the corresponding productivity increase out of it. With quite a few CAD tools I fail to see that materialize. >> or do a clumsy netlist transfer into Autotrax or another lower cost tool. > > Finally we get to the truth... > And the truth is: If a tool at a lower cost does the job efficiently there is no need for a more expensive tool. In the same way that I do not use a Ferrari Testarossa to go pick up lumber at the yard ;-) -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com
From: Joerg on 14 Sep 2006 12:03 Hello Kelly, >> The user interface of a microwave oven is already too complicated to >> be developed in asm... > > The best UI I've used on a microwave was a spring-loaded dial with > regular markings up to 20 minutes at full CCW. Just turn the dial past > zero with the door shut and the magnetron nukes the food. > Yes! And it produces a nice sounding "bing" instead of an ugly "meeeep" from some stressed out piezo. > No assembly, C, state machines, or RTOS required. Maybe my microwaving > needs are too primitive? > According to Yuriy most consumer needs appear to be primitive. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com
From: Joerg on 14 Sep 2006 12:05 Hello Walter, > The Microchip PIC based flashing LED inviting customers to tear off > a discount coupon is written in C > You mean the things that just constantly flash in the stores contain a uC? Ouch! -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com
From: steve on 14 Sep 2006 12:44 Kelly Hall wrote: > No assembly, C, state machines, or RTOS required. Maybe my microwaving > needs are too primitive? > The computerless microwaves don't sell well, so most people must need the extra functions or at least think they do. I frequently add/suggest features to a product that I know most people would never use and for the most part are totally useless and add cost, but it wouldn't sell otherwise. It's a hard thing for a designer to swallow, but as a consumer I know all too well how hard it is to pass up an extra feature that I might use sometime in the future, under certain rare conditions, it's what drives the auto market (AWD option is a good example).
From: Joerg on 14 Sep 2006 13:09
Hello Steve, > Kelly Hall wrote: > > >>No assembly, C, state machines, or RTOS required. Maybe my microwaving >>needs are too primitive? >> > > The computerless microwaves don't sell well, so most people must need > the extra functions or at least think they do. > > I frequently add/suggest features to a product that I know most people > would never use and for the most part are totally useless and add cost, > but it wouldn't sell otherwise. It's a hard thing for a designer to > swallow, but as a consumer I know all too well how hard it is to pass > up an extra feature that I might use sometime in the future, under > certain rare conditions, it's what drives the auto market (AWD option > is a good example). > True. And I must confess that the microwave clock is the one I most frequenctly look at. Because life centers around the kitchen here just like in the good old days. Once I had to design an x-ray camera interface into an ultrasound machine. I cringed but Marketing said it'll sell units even though nobody might ever use it. It felt like designing a digital camera to cooperate with a magnesia flash pan. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com |