From: Woody on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > They can be. I have one of Jon B's old MDDs here and that sounds like an
> > > old DC3 taking off. Wondering whether it is possible to change the
> > > fan...
> >
> > Yes, but the Apple-supplied replacements to make the machine quieter[1]
> > seemed (when I fitted them) to make the noise a wee bit less intrusive -
> > I got the idea that the sound energy's not so much reduced, as increased
> > in wavelength.
>
> In my case the original fan made a sort of knocking noise that was
> subtly yet incredibly annoying. The Dorothy Bradbury fan was quieter and
> didn't knock.

Mine does the knocking noise. I should have changed it some time ago,
but it is not really worth it now.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > It is (assuming you mean the large fan at the back). I got a replacement
> > > from Dorothy Bradbury and it made it a much quieter machine. If you do
> > > as well then tell them it's for a Mac - the polarity needs reversing
> > > apparently.
> >
> > Could you say more?
> >
> > Where might I get a suitable *quiet* fan for a MDD 1.25GHz 2G4?
>
> http://www.dorothybradbury.co.uk/
>
> It's best if you email them stating what computer and fan you're after

From the listings they've got, I don't see any way to get the fan I'm
after unless they could tell me which one would fit. And it wouldn't
have occurred to me to ask - after all, who in that field knows or cares
anything about Macs at all, especially long-obsolete ones?

Anyway, a pointer: ta. I'll be contacting them (if...)

> since, as I say, there's polarity issues.

<pained>

I would naturally assume that any fan I got `not from Apple for the Mac
in question' would need to be wired up correctly, and that I would have
to find out what that way of wiring was.

And I've been bright enough to take such steps since the age of about 7,
at at guess.

Rowland.

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From: Woody on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > They can be. I have one of Jon B's old MDDs here and that sounds
> > > > > like an old DC3 taking off. Wondering whether it is possible to
> > > > > change the fan...
> > > >
> > > > Yes, but the Apple-supplied replacements to make the machine quieter[1]
> > > > seemed (when I fitted them) to make the noise a wee bit less intrusive -
> > > > I got the idea that the sound energy's not so much reduced, as increased
> > > > in wavelength.
> > >
> > > In my case the original fan made a sort of knocking noise that was
> > > subtly yet incredibly annoying. The Dorothy Bradbury fan was quieter and
> > > didn't knock.
> >
> > Mine does the knocking noise. I should have changed it some time ago,
> > but it is not really worth it now.
>
> Knocking? Surely that's a fault condition?

Well, that is what it sounds like the day I got it, and that is what it
sounded like last week when I fired it up. It isn't ideal but it didn't
sound too serious. It is just loud.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> > > Mine does the knocking noise. I should have changed it some time ago,
> > > but it is not really worth it now.
> >
> > Knocking? Surely that's a fault condition?
>
> Well, that is what it sounds like the day I got it, and that is what it
> sounded like last week when I fired it up. It isn't ideal but it didn't
> sound too serious. It is just loud.

Yeah, that's what I thought about the strange dodgy noise coming from
the fan on my old 2G4. Then one day the bearing of the failing fan
seized without warning: the graphics card, one of two CPUs, and a few
sticks of RAM got fried.

`it didn't sound too serious' - yeah, well, nothing is, until the
catastrophic failure.

Rowland.

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From: Jim on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> > since, as I say, there's polarity issues.
>
> <pained>
>
> I would naturally assume that any fan I got `not from Apple for the Mac
> in question' would need to be wired up correctly, and that I would have
> to find out what that way of wiring was.

In my case I'd simply mentioned what I wanted the fan for and they went
"Ah! we'll need to swap the end around!" and did it for me.

Oh - I've found the original model number as order from them - it's
FB-120-H1A -- 2-wire -- Mac polarity.

Jim
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