From: Spehro Pefhany on
On 15 Dec 2009 21:10:28 GMT, Robert Latest <boblatest(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (10 Dec 2009 17:34:26 GMT) it happened Robert Latest
>><boblatest(a)yahoo.com> wrote in <7ocpp2F3p9ht0U2(a)mid.uni-berlin.de>:
>>
>>>Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>> 'Spiritus' is 85% Ethanol, and 3% Methanol, plus a horribe smell and
>>>> taste added... Vodka is expensive, and only 40%, heavely taxed here.
>>>
>>>I don't think there's methanol in it.
>>>
>>>robert
>>
>> Spiritus has it written on the bottle, contains:
>> 85 % Ethanol
>> max 3 % Methanol.
>
>That's integesting. I need to check, but I think in Germany "Spritus" is
>just alcohol plus some non-toxic but extremely bitter-tasting additives.
>OK, the German Wikipedia confirms this. No Methanol.
>
>robert

Denaturing can use different additives. Maybe it's illegal to poison
people in Germany.

From: Jon Kirwan on
On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:58:50 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
wrote:

><snip>
>Back in those days watch dials would be readable all night, not nearly
>have that much decay. That is no longer the case, no matter what fancy
>material they use.

Missed this. I used to own a radium dial watch when a kid. I could
quite literally read a scifi book in bed with it. It was that bright.
I had to put it under something to cover it up if I wanted to sleep.
Not exactly a flashlight, but it did provide a fair degree of light.

These days, the closer equivalent is a tritium dial. Half life of
something like 19-20 years and fairly low energy electrons (40keV?
something like that.) The work very much nice enough for me and I
have one.

Jon
From: Joerg on
Jon Kirwan wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:58:50 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> <snip>
>> Back in those days watch dials would be readable all night, not nearly
>> have that much decay. That is no longer the case, no matter what fancy
>> material they use.
>
> Missed this. I used to own a radium dial watch when a kid. I could
> quite literally read a scifi book in bed with it. It was that bright.
> I had to put it under something to cover it up if I wanted to sleep.
> Not exactly a flashlight, but it did provide a fair degree of light.
>
> These days, the closer equivalent is a tritium dial. Half life of
> something like 19-20 years and fairly low energy electrons (40keV?
> something like that.) The work very much nice enough for me and I
> have one.
>

I have one as well, from Chase-Durer. But it isn't nearly as bright as
the old watches.

--
Regards, Joerg

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From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (15 Dec 2009 21:10:28 GMT) it happened Robert Latest
<boblatest(a)yahoo.com> wrote in <7oqca4F3nni4kU2(a)mid.uni-berlin.de>:

>Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (10 Dec 2009 17:34:26 GMT) it happened Robert Latest
>><boblatest(a)yahoo.com> wrote in <7ocpp2F3p9ht0U2(a)mid.uni-berlin.de>:
>>
>>>Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>> 'Spiritus' is 85% Ethanol, and 3% Methanol, plus a horribe smell and
>>>> taste added... Vodka is expensive, and only 40%, heavely taxed here.
>>>
>>>I don't think there's methanol in it.
>>>
>>>robert
>>
>> Spiritus has it written on the bottle, contains:
>> 85 % Ethanol
>> max 3 % Methanol.
>
>That's integesting. I need to check, but I think in Germany "Spritus" is
>just alcohol plus some non-toxic but extremely bitter-tasting additives.
>OK, the German Wikipedia confirms this. No Methanol.
>
>robert

ftp://panteltje.com/pub/spiritus_img_1703.jpg
I would not trust wikipedia anymore now that they filter on contributors,.
From: Jon Kirwan on
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:00:09 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>Jon Kirwan wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:58:50 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> <snip>
>>> Back in those days watch dials would be readable all night, not nearly
>>> have that much decay. That is no longer the case, no matter what fancy
>>> material they use.
>>
>> Missed this. I used to own a radium dial watch when a kid. I could
>> quite literally read a scifi book in bed with it. It was that bright.
>> I had to put it under something to cover it up if I wanted to sleep.
>> Not exactly a flashlight, but it did provide a fair degree of light.
>>
>> These days, the closer equivalent is a tritium dial. Half life of
>> something like 19-20 years and fairly low energy electrons (40keV?
>> something like that.) The work very much nice enough for me and I
>> have one.
>
>I have one as well, from Chase-Durer. But it isn't nearly as bright as
>the old watches.

Right. Not nearly. Too bad. Hmm. Now where can I order myself up
some refined radium, today? ;)

Jon