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From: Michael A. Terrell on 16 Dec 2009 00:48 Joel Koltner wrote: > > Here's what the Car Talk guys have to say: > > Tom: So there's no longer any good economic argument for driving a standard > transmission...especially when you factor in the inevitable clutch job or two > you'll need. It's purely a matter of preference these days. If you like > shifting, then get a stick shift. > > Ray: But if you have better things to do with your right hand and left foot > while you drive, get an automatic, and don't worry about the mileage > difference. > > (There's more discussion about how these things work -- they're targeting a > rather non-technical audience, of course -- here: > http://www.cartalk.com/content/columns/Archive/1993/September/09.html . I > realize that Joerg managed to drive his Citreon a quarter-million miles > without ever needing a new clutch, but the average soccer mom isn't quite so > gentle to them. :-) ) So? It was all downhill. ;-) -- Offworld checks no longer accepted!
From: Michael A. Terrell on 16 Dec 2009 00:56 Joerg wrote: > > Joel Koltner wrote: > > "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message > > news:7opq9mF3qhhh3U1(a)mid.individual.net... > >> We still learned how to hobble a stalled car off railroad tracks by > >> using starter, clutch and first gear. Of course now they have switches > >> on the clutch that don't let the starter engage unless fully depressed > >> which defeats that extra safety measure. > > > > I would have to guess the the ratio of how often people damaged or > > ruined their starter or gearbox from trying to start without the clutch > > all the way in to how often someone ended up with a stalled car on > > railroad tracks is perhaps about a million to one? :-) > > > > AFAIK you can't easily ruin the gear box even with the clutch released > and in gear. The starter, yes, but even that will take a while if it's a > good quality one. > > >> But they all have to keep sloshing around some of the oil around the > >> shaft lock. There's a reason why even new automatic transmissions run > >> hotter than gear boxes. And warmer = more losses. > > > > Apparently what makes new automatics as efficient or even a little more > > so than manuals is hitting the optimal shift points better than your > > average human does. > > > > Not sure, since the automatic can't see a slope or a curve coming up. > Maybe some day it can and it's all GPS-linked. And then the computer > goes on the fritz ;-) Don't buy anything from Eurpoe. > > I keep hoping that one of these days an inexpensive and reliable > > continuously variable transmission finds its way into cars. > > > > Would be nice but I am quite happy with the manual transmission in my > car. Does the job and contains no electronics that could fry. Then you have no backup light switch to fail? -- Offworld checks no longer accepted!
From: JosephKK on 16 Dec 2009 05:40 On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:19:55 -0600, "Tim Williams" <tmoranwms(a)charter.net> wrote: >"JosephKK" <quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:ll6fi559kj177l5oaqfqvl938c463jp9r7(a)4ax.com... >> I gave it a go, but it does not like me. I allowed session cookies and >> scripts; no soap. >> >> Now what? > >Idunno, your fault for not using mainstream software. > >Back to Google. Vintage Radio isn't the only place. I don't remember if >BAMA has the IO-103. > >Tim Smacks self on head. Of Course. Too much recent overtime. It's got me goofy.
From: Joerg on 16 Dec 2009 09:57 Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Joerg wrote: >> Joel Koltner wrote: >>> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:7opq9mF3qhhh3U1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> We still learned how to hobble a stalled car off railroad tracks by >>>> using starter, clutch and first gear. Of course now they have switches >>>> on the clutch that don't let the starter engage unless fully depressed >>>> which defeats that extra safety measure. >>> I would have to guess the the ratio of how often people damaged or >>> ruined their starter or gearbox from trying to start without the clutch >>> all the way in to how often someone ended up with a stalled car on >>> railroad tracks is perhaps about a million to one? :-) >>> >> AFAIK you can't easily ruin the gear box even with the clutch released >> and in gear. The starter, yes, but even that will take a while if it's a >> good quality one. >> >>>> But they all have to keep sloshing around some of the oil around the >>>> shaft lock. There's a reason why even new automatic transmissions run >>>> hotter than gear boxes. And warmer = more losses. >>> Apparently what makes new automatics as efficient or even a little more >>> so than manuals is hitting the optimal shift points better than your >>> average human does. >>> >> Not sure, since the automatic can't see a slope or a curve coming up. >> Maybe some day it can and it's all GPS-linked. And then the computer >> goes on the fritz ;-) > > > Don't buy anything from Eurpoe. > Why not? The marzipan and brandy beans from there are quite good :-) [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Jim Thompson on 16 Dec 2009 10:09
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:55:48 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> Joerg wrote: [auto-snip] >>> You were lucky with your automatics. I know numerous people who have >>> either given up cars or paid north of $2k after the automatic >>> transmission croaked. My old Audi (manual) is now beyond 200,000km and >>> since the new owner and I are friends we talk a lot on the phone. The >>> only things he ever mentioned was a repair after a motorcyclist took an >>> illegal sidewalk ride and crashed into the front, plus after a frozen >>> food truck backed into it. But no clutch job. >>> >>> What I really don't like with automatics is when you get onto ice and >>> they shift on you. >> >> >> Then you don't know how to drive a vehicle with an automatic >> transmission on ice. I took a survival driving course on wet ice in a >> 1/2 ton pickup truck with an automatic while in the Army. Their logic >> was, "If you can do it with an automatic transmission, you can do it >> with a manual transmission." BTW, the test was conducted by the >> National Safety Council. >> > >True, I don't know that. A race car driver once said that an automatic >will, in our lifetime, probably never be as good as a manual to handle >one you get onto a surprise patch of ice. Load change reaction is so >much faster because it ain't sloshing all this stuff around. Ummmmm? My Q45 has automatic _stability_ control. Keep it up Joerg, you're getting ALMOST as good at obfuscation as Ms Prissy ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Help save the environment! Please dispose of socialism properly! |