From: Joerg on 17 Dec 2009 18:28 Baron wrote: > Joerg Inscribed thus: > >> Baron wrote: >>> Joerg Inscribed thus: >>> >> [...] >> >>>>> I view triggering ABS as an indication of failure to anticipate >>>>> developing traffic situations ahead. >>>>> >>>> Yes, except when a kid jumps into the road. But even that can often >>>> be avoided. One boy that must now be about 15 got spared injury >>>> because I never go above 15mph in our 25mph road here. I stopped >>>> about 2ft from him when he was 3 or 4 and literally dashed into the >>>> road. >>>> >>> I had a similar thing happen to me whilst I was doing my driving >>> test, >>> nearly 50 years ago. Kiddy ran out of a gate straight into the road >>> chasing a football. I got my pink slip but never went on to complete >>> the test. The examiner was more shaken than I was... No seatbelts >>> in those days. >>> >> When we moved to the US they wanted us to do a new driving test. My >> wife was quite nervous about it. I told here "Nah, piece a cake" and >> it was for me. Then it was her turn. Sure enough someone went into the >> road right in front of her. She reacted well but thought "That's it, >> I'll have to come back". But the DMV guy said "that was a good >> reaction". >> > > Its a while since I was in the USA. First time was in New York. I was > given the loan of a Ford truck, bloody big thing, only did about > 12-14mpg. The guy who loaned it to me was quite concerned because it > was a stick shift. He was quite surprised to learn that I had never > driven an automatic and that in the UK you need a second test if you > haven't passed one, using a vehicle with manual transmission. > Same in Germany. If you haven't done the test on a manual your driver license will have a restriction to automatics. I was quite surprised when I rented a large delivery van in Germany and they didn't flinch after seeing my American license. It was a Diesel manual. All they asked me was whether I had driven a truck like this before, upon which I said "Well, yes, but not this small" :-) -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: krw on 17 Dec 2009 19:14 On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:28:44 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Baron wrote: >> Joerg Inscribed thus: >> >>> Baron wrote: >>>> Joerg Inscribed thus: >>>> >>> [...] >>> >>>>>> I view triggering ABS as an indication of failure to anticipate >>>>>> developing traffic situations ahead. >>>>>> >>>>> Yes, except when a kid jumps into the road. But even that can often >>>>> be avoided. One boy that must now be about 15 got spared injury >>>>> because I never go above 15mph in our 25mph road here. I stopped >>>>> about 2ft from him when he was 3 or 4 and literally dashed into the >>>>> road. >>>>> >>>> I had a similar thing happen to me whilst I was doing my driving >>>> test, >>>> nearly 50 years ago. Kiddy ran out of a gate straight into the road >>>> chasing a football. I got my pink slip but never went on to complete >>>> the test. The examiner was more shaken than I was... No seatbelts >>>> in those days. >>>> >>> When we moved to the US they wanted us to do a new driving test. My >>> wife was quite nervous about it. I told here "Nah, piece a cake" and >>> it was for me. Then it was her turn. Sure enough someone went into the >>> road right in front of her. She reacted well but thought "That's it, >>> I'll have to come back". But the DMV guy said "that was a good >>> reaction". >>> >> >> Its a while since I was in the USA. First time was in New York. I was >> given the loan of a Ford truck, bloody big thing, only did about >> 12-14mpg. The guy who loaned it to me was quite concerned because it >> was a stick shift. He was quite surprised to learn that I had never >> driven an automatic and that in the UK you need a second test if you >> haven't passed one, using a vehicle with manual transmission. >> > >Same in Germany. If you haven't done the test on a manual your driver >license will have a restriction to automatics. When I turned 16, 90% of all males failed the driver's test the first time. I took the exam with a stick the examiner was suitably impressed (even though I missed a gear parking - but don't think he caught it) and I passed. It was a tough car to learn a stick on too. It was way underpowered with a slushy clutch. >I was quite surprised when I rented a large delivery van in Germany and >they didn't flinch after seeing my American license. It was a Diesel >manual. All they asked me was whether I had driven a truck like this >before, upon which I said "Well, yes, but not this small" :-) When I lived in VT, Hertz would always upgrade me to large RWD cars in the winter because I had a VT license and they knew they had a better chance of getting them back.
From: Joerg on 17 Dec 2009 19:56 JosephKK wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:52:38 -0800, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:7opq9mF3qhhh3U1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> We still learned how to hobble a stalled car off railroad tracks by using >>> starter, clutch and first gear. Of course now they have switches on the >>> clutch that don't let the starter engage unless fully depressed which >>> defeats that extra safety measure. >> I would have to guess the the ratio of how often people damaged or ruined >> their starter or gearbox from trying to start without the clutch all the way >> in to how often someone ended up with a stalled car on railroad tracks is >> perhaps about a million to one? :-) >> >>> But they all have to keep sloshing around some of the oil around the shaft >>> lock. There's a reason why even new automatic transmissions run hotter than >>> gear boxes. And warmer = more losses. >> Apparently what makes new automatics as efficient or even a little more so >> than manuals is hitting the optimal shift points better than your average >> human does. >> >> I keep hoping that one of these days an inexpensive and reliable continuously >> variable transmission finds its way into cars. >> >> ---Joel > > Yep. I even remember hearing about the study where they took and measured when > and where top professional drivers shifted under various situations. All kinds > of pros, not merely racers. The study was done in the mid 1990s. It proved to > be a real eye opener. It would not surprise me to find that most current production > automatics have sufficiently sophisticated controls to recognize the current paradigm > and respond with the optimal mapping for engine and shifting. This would require the computer for the automatic transmission to have a permanent and precise GPS feed, weather data feed, traffic congestion feed and so on. Oh, and in Europe it would also have to see that old Russky truck ahead that is abruptly pulling into lane 2 and that there is a wee berm of frozen snow between lane 1 and lane 2 (had a close one there once). -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Martin Brown on 18 Dec 2009 04:05 Joerg wrote: > Baron wrote: >> Joerg Inscribed thus: >> > [...] > >>> >>>> I view triggering ABS as an indication of failure to anticipate >>>> developing traffic situations ahead. >>>> >>> Yes, except when a kid jumps into the road. But even that can often be >>> avoided. One boy that must now be about 15 got spared injury because I >>> never go above 15mph in our 25mph road here. I stopped about 2ft from >>> him when he was 3 or 4 and literally dashed into the road. There are situations like that that are unavoidable. A cyclist is still alive today because I know the road and have ABS - he was right over on my side of the road on a tight blind bend. > When we moved to the US they wanted us to do a new driving test. My wife > was quite nervous about it. I told here "Nah, piece a cake" and it was > for me. Then it was her turn. Sure enough someone went into the road > right in front of her. She reacted well but thought "That's it, I'll > have to come back". But the DMV guy said "that was a good reaction". When I lived in Japan after a year we had to do the Japanese driving test - which is conducted on a standard cricket pitch sized test ground (which all the driving schools faithfully replicate). The test is actually quite demanding after a fashion and more so switching back to an unfamiliar badly worn manual transmission after a year of driving fancy autos. Hardest part of the theory was remembering that "green" traffic lights are "blue" if you want to pass the test. Regards, Martin Brown
From: Michael A. Terrell on 18 Dec 2009 05:24
Baron wrote: > > Its a while since I was in the USA. First time was in New York. I was > given the loan of a Ford truck, bloody big thing, only did about > 12-14mpg. The guy who loaned it to me was quite concerned because it > was a stick shift. He was quite surprised to learn that I had never > driven an automatic and that in the UK you need a second test if you > haven't passed one, using a vehicle with manual transmission. A US military driver's license listed only the vehicles you were authorized to drive. Drive anything not on that list and they lock you up. Even if there was an error on the list. I found that out the hard way in the Army. I was driving the truck I took my test in when a MP stopped me fro running a stop sign that was inside a huge bush at a corner in the officer's housing area. I asked how I was supposed to know the sign was there, when it was all he could do to pull the branches back enough to see part of it. His excuse was that I had been on base long enough to know it was there. I had been there a couple weeks, and never on that end of the base. Then he arrested me after looking at my license. It took half a day to get the civilians in 'testing' to admit that they screwed up. -- Offworld checks no longer accepted! |