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From: Joel Koltner on 28 Dec 2009 21:25 "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:7pt6ptFvehU1(a)mid.individual.net... > From August this year: > http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2009/08/tektronix_exports_manufacturin.html "However, Culp said profit margins were high and the pipeline of new products was strong." Those high profit margins are one of the things that's killing them. If you're just re-badging Chinese-engineered and manufactured scopes and what-not at the low- to mid-end of equipment, why should the customer hand over high profit margins when, e.g., Instek is perfectly happy to make do with less?
From: Joerg on 28 Dec 2009 21:48 Joel Koltner wrote: > "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:7pt6ptFvehU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> From August this year: >> http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2009/08/tektronix_exports_manufacturin.html >> > > "However, Culp said profit margins were high and the pipeline of new > products was strong." > > Those high profit margins are one of the things that's killing them. If > you're just re-badging Chinese-engineered and manufactured scopes and > what-not at the low- to mid-end of equipment, why should the customer > hand over high profit margins when, e.g., Instek is perfectly happy to > make do with less? > Bingo! Which is why I chose Instek. Plus it had more sample memory and features, for less money. Now clients of mine are buying those as well ... Last time a client asked me whether they also sold a LabView driver for theirs. "No, they don't sell one, you just download it for free just like the PC control software." ... "Oh, really?" -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Jim Yanik on 28 Dec 2009 22:59 "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote in news:SMd_m.422289$Xw3.384637(a)en-nntp-04.dc1.easynews.com: > "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:7pt6ptFvehU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> From August this year: >> http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2009/08/tektronix_exports >> _manufacturin.html > > "However, Culp said profit margins were high and the pipeline of new > products was strong." > > Those high profit margins are one of the things that's killing them. > If you're just re-badging Chinese-engineered and manufactured scopes > and what-not at the low- to mid-end of equipment, why should the > customer hand over high profit margins when, e.g., Instek is perfectly > happy to make do with less? > > TEK will probably still do the engineering in the US,but production will be shifted to China. No more US-made TEK scopes or TV test equipment. Getting decent SERVICE will be interesting. What Danaher SHOULD do is get rid of TEK's T&M management and their beancounters,the idiots who sold off TEK's IC/Hybrid manufacturing operation. FYI,at it's peak,TEK used to employ 24,028 people,in 1981. from Winning with People;The First 40 years of Tektronix,by Marshall M. Lee -- Jim Yanik jyanik at localnet dot com
From: Jamie on 29 Dec 2009 21:18 Joerg wrote: > Joel Koltner wrote: > >> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:7pt6ptFvehU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >>> From August this year: >>> http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2009/08/tektronix_exports_manufacturin.html >>> >> >> >> "However, Culp said profit margins were high and the pipeline of new >> products was strong." >> >> Those high profit margins are one of the things that's killing them. >> If you're just re-badging Chinese-engineered and manufactured scopes >> and what-not at the low- to mid-end of equipment, why should the >> customer hand over high profit margins when, e.g., Instek is perfectly >> happy to make do with less? >> > > Bingo! Which is why I chose Instek. Plus it had more sample memory and > features, for less money. Now clients of mine are buying those as well ... > > Last time a client asked me whether they also sold a LabView driver for > theirs. "No, they don't sell one, you just download it for free just > like the PC control software." ... "Oh, really?" > Which is why I see people like Allen Bradley, soon to join those like Tek! It's totally ridiculous with their hardware pricing on top of their software pricing and licensing.. What are they? Hardware or Microsoft? As far as I'm concerned, they are an industrial hardware manufacturer and the software to configure their electronics should be supplied as a free tool or maybe enough to pay for the materials at best. It seems to me with the lack of any recent advancement in hardware, I think all they want to do is have an office and just sell software that requires no employees, because they can get the code written in India and charge you dearly for the use of it! It's like paying rent on a program which isn't cheap! It used to be you had a one time payment and they gave you a key or what ever for one computer, now, they make you pay over and over because your license runs out. Just another fine example of greed! We are now buying Omron electronics because they are worth the money, software is great and reasonable. Also looking into other avenues. Good bye AB!
From: Joerg on 30 Dec 2009 18:09
Jamie wrote: > Joerg wrote: > >> Joel Koltner wrote: >> >>> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:7pt6ptFvehU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> >>>> From August this year: >>>> http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2009/08/tektronix_exports_manufacturin.html >>>> >>> >>> >>> "However, Culp said profit margins were high and the pipeline of new >>> products was strong." >>> >>> Those high profit margins are one of the things that's killing them. >>> If you're just re-badging Chinese-engineered and manufactured scopes >>> and what-not at the low- to mid-end of equipment, why should the >>> customer hand over high profit margins when, e.g., Instek is >>> perfectly happy to make do with less? >>> >> >> Bingo! Which is why I chose Instek. Plus it had more sample memory and >> features, for less money. Now clients of mine are buying those as well >> ... >> >> Last time a client asked me whether they also sold a LabView driver >> for theirs. "No, they don't sell one, you just download it for free >> just like the PC control software." ... "Oh, really?" >> > Which is why I see people like Allen Bradley, soon to join those like Tek! > It's totally ridiculous with their hardware pricing on top of their > software pricing and licensing.. > > What are they? Hardware or Microsoft? > > As far as I'm concerned, they are an industrial hardware manufacturer > and the software to configure their electronics should be supplied as a > free tool or maybe enough to pay for the materials at best. > > It seems to me with the lack of any recent advancement in hardware, I > think all they want to do is have an office and just > sell software that requires no employees, because they can get the code > written in India and charge you dearly for the use of it! It's like > paying rent on a program which isn't cheap! > > It used to be you had a one time payment and they gave you a key or > what ever for one computer, now, they make you pay over and over because > your license runs out. > > Just another fine example of greed! We are now buying Omron > electronics because they are worth the money, software is great and > reasonable. Also looking into other avenues. > > Good bye AB! > Or as they say, we vote with our feet :-) -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM. |