From: cjcountess on
It might be fruitless to argue or discuss any further with you
Your puopose seems to be to obstruct and block the truth
But I will state one more time

E=hf/c^2 is just as valid as E=m/c^2, and is demonstrated in paper:
Relativistic Effects on Clocks
Aboard GPS Satellites
Carl E. Mungan, U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD

Containing on "first page, third paragraph"

If the photon travels downward in Earth’s gravitational
field, it therefore loses potential energy of (hf /c2
This equation at end of statement, is clearly equivalent to E=hf/c^2
from http://usna.edu/Users/physics/mungan/Publications/TPT11.pdf
Conrad J Countess

What is you contribution beside obstruction? What is your constructive
contribution if any?
From: cjcountess on
I am addressing "Inertia" also

Who is this obstructionist?

He or she is hiding something

Show your true self and your work

Coward

I am Conrad J Countess who are you?
From: Inertial on

"cjcountess" <cjcountess(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5fbc028e-7b1e-4d06-879a-cd945c4564d8(a)c4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> It might be fruitless to argue or discuss any further with you

When you are posting nonsense .. yes. Unless you fix your nonsense and
start talking valid physics again.

> Your puopose seems to be to obstruct and block the truth

No .. it is to expose your lies

> But I will state one more time
>
> E=hf/c^2 is just as valid as E=m/c^2

Yes .. both just as invalid. The CORRECT formulas are

E = hf
E = mc^2

NOT

E = hf/c^2

And NOT

E = m/c^2

You can't just make up random combinations of letters and call it a physics
formula

> and is demonstrated in paper:

Nope

> Relativistic Effects on Clocks
> Aboard GPS Satellites
> Carl E. Mungan, U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD
> Containing on "first page, third paragraph"

You mean where is says: "E = hf is the photon's energy" .. which proves you
wrong.

> If the photon travels downward in Earth�s gravitational
> field, it therefore loses potential energy of (hf /c2

You just dishonestly cut out half of the formula, which in full is

(hf/c^2).deltaV

Where deltaV is a change in gravitational potential.

> This equation at end of statement, is clearly equivalent to E=hf/c^2

No .. it is clearly not.

> from http://usna.edu/Users/physics/mungan/Publications/TPT11.pdf

You really need to understand physics before reading other papers ..
otherwise you make mistakes like the above.

> Conrad J Countess
>
> What is you contribution beside obstruction?

Pointing out your mistakes so you can fix them

> What is your constructive
> contribution if any?

Pointing out your mistakes so you can fix them


From: cjcountess on
On Jan 22, 7:24 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> "cjcountess" <cjcount...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > But I will state one more time
>
> > E=hf/c^2 is just as valid as E=m/c^2
>
> Yes .. both just as invalid.  The CORRECT formulas are
>
> E = hf
> E = mc^2
>
> NOT
>
> E = hf/c^2
>
> And NOT
>
> E = m/c^2
>
> You can't just make up random combinations of letters and call it a physics
> formula
>
> > and is demonstrated in paper:
> > Relativistic Effects on Clocks
> > Aboard GPS Satellites
> > Carl E. Mungan, U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD
> > Containing on "first page, third paragraph"
>
> > If the photon travels downward in Earth’s gravitational
> > field, it therefore loses potential energy of (hf /c2
>
> You just dishonestly cut out half of the formula, which in full is



> (hf/c^2).deltaV
>
> Where deltaV is a change in gravitational potential.

Really, you call that dishonest, ok E=(hf/c^2)deltaV, have your deltaV
with itstill doesn't change what I said, you are just trying to dance
around the issue
This equation at end of statement, is clearly equivalent to E=hf/c^2
fromhttp://usna.edu/Users/physics/mungan/Publications/TPT11.pdf

I'll just leave it like that and let the people judge for themselves

Conrad J Countess

From: Inertial on

"cjcountess" <cjcountess(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:499d4c2b-8945-49ea-b76f-c0ab51866511(a)a15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 22, 7:24 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
>> "cjcountess" <cjcount...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > But I will state one more time
>>
>> > E=hf/c^2 is just as valid as E=m/c^2
>>
>> Yes .. both just as invalid. The CORRECT formulas are
>>
>> E = hf
>> E = mc^2
>>
>> NOT
>>
>> E = hf/c^2
>>
>> And NOT
>>
>> E = m/c^2
>>
>> You can't just make up random combinations of letters and call it a
>> physics
>> formula
>>
>> > and is demonstrated in paper:
>> > Relativistic Effects on Clocks
>> > Aboard GPS Satellites
>> > Carl E. Mungan, U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD
>> > Containing on "first page, third paragraph"
>>
>> > If the photon travels downward in Earth�s gravitational
>> > field, it therefore loses potential energy of (hf /c2
>>
>> You just dishonestly cut out half of the formula, which in full is
>
>
>
>> (hf/c^2).deltaV
>>
>> Where deltaV is a change in gravitational potential.
>
> Really, you call that dishonest,

Yes .. VERY

> ok E=(hf/c^2)deltaV, have your deltaV
> with itstill doesn't change what I said,

yes .. it does.

> you are just trying to dance
> around the issue

No .. that's what you are doing now that your dishonesty (or stupidity) is
exposed

> This equation at end of statement, is clearly equivalent to E=hf/c^2

No .. it is not.

> fromhttp://usna.edu/Users/physics/mungan/Publications/TPT11.pdf
>
> I'll just leave it like that and let the people judge for themselves

So you lie and run away. You're a coward.