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From: cjcountess on 22 Jan 2010 05:29 It might be fruitless to argue or discuss any further with you Your puopose seems to be to obstruct and block the truth But I will state one more time E=hf/c^2 is just as valid as E=m/c^2, and is demonstrated in paper: Relativistic Effects on Clocks Aboard GPS Satellites Carl E. Mungan, U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD Containing on "first page, third paragraph" If the photon travels downward in Earths gravitational field, it therefore loses potential energy of (hf /c2 This equation at end of statement, is clearly equivalent to E=hf/c^2 from http://usna.edu/Users/physics/mungan/Publications/TPT11.pdf Conrad J Countess What is you contribution beside obstruction? What is your constructive contribution if any?
From: cjcountess on 22 Jan 2010 06:05 I am addressing "Inertia" also Who is this obstructionist? He or she is hiding something Show your true self and your work Coward I am Conrad J Countess who are you?
From: Inertial on 22 Jan 2010 07:24 "cjcountess" <cjcountess(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:5fbc028e-7b1e-4d06-879a-cd945c4564d8(a)c4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > It might be fruitless to argue or discuss any further with you When you are posting nonsense .. yes. Unless you fix your nonsense and start talking valid physics again. > Your puopose seems to be to obstruct and block the truth No .. it is to expose your lies > But I will state one more time > > E=hf/c^2 is just as valid as E=m/c^2 Yes .. both just as invalid. The CORRECT formulas are E = hf E = mc^2 NOT E = hf/c^2 And NOT E = m/c^2 You can't just make up random combinations of letters and call it a physics formula > and is demonstrated in paper: Nope > Relativistic Effects on Clocks > Aboard GPS Satellites > Carl E. Mungan, U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD > Containing on "first page, third paragraph" You mean where is says: "E = hf is the photon's energy" .. which proves you wrong. > If the photon travels downward in Earth�s gravitational > field, it therefore loses potential energy of (hf /c2 You just dishonestly cut out half of the formula, which in full is (hf/c^2).deltaV Where deltaV is a change in gravitational potential. > This equation at end of statement, is clearly equivalent to E=hf/c^2 No .. it is clearly not. > from http://usna.edu/Users/physics/mungan/Publications/TPT11.pdf You really need to understand physics before reading other papers .. otherwise you make mistakes like the above. > Conrad J Countess > > What is you contribution beside obstruction? Pointing out your mistakes so you can fix them > What is your constructive > contribution if any? Pointing out your mistakes so you can fix them
From: cjcountess on 22 Jan 2010 08:53 On Jan 22, 7:24 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > "cjcountess" <cjcount...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > But I will state one more time > > > E=hf/c^2 is just as valid as E=m/c^2 > > Yes .. both just as invalid. The CORRECT formulas are > > E = hf > E = mc^2 > > NOT > > E = hf/c^2 > > And NOT > > E = m/c^2 > > You can't just make up random combinations of letters and call it a physics > formula > > > and is demonstrated in paper: > > Relativistic Effects on Clocks > > Aboard GPS Satellites > > Carl E. Mungan, U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD > > Containing on "first page, third paragraph" > > > If the photon travels downward in Earths gravitational > > field, it therefore loses potential energy of (hf /c2 > > You just dishonestly cut out half of the formula, which in full is > (hf/c^2).deltaV > > Where deltaV is a change in gravitational potential. Really, you call that dishonest, ok E=(hf/c^2)deltaV, have your deltaV with itstill doesn't change what I said, you are just trying to dance around the issue This equation at end of statement, is clearly equivalent to E=hf/c^2 fromhttp://usna.edu/Users/physics/mungan/Publications/TPT11.pdf I'll just leave it like that and let the people judge for themselves Conrad J Countess
From: Inertial on 22 Jan 2010 18:04
"cjcountess" <cjcountess(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:499d4c2b-8945-49ea-b76f-c0ab51866511(a)a15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 22, 7:24 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> "cjcountess" <cjcount...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> > But I will state one more time >> >> > E=hf/c^2 is just as valid as E=m/c^2 >> >> Yes .. both just as invalid. The CORRECT formulas are >> >> E = hf >> E = mc^2 >> >> NOT >> >> E = hf/c^2 >> >> And NOT >> >> E = m/c^2 >> >> You can't just make up random combinations of letters and call it a >> physics >> formula >> >> > and is demonstrated in paper: >> > Relativistic Effects on Clocks >> > Aboard GPS Satellites >> > Carl E. Mungan, U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD >> > Containing on "first page, third paragraph" >> >> > If the photon travels downward in Earth�s gravitational >> > field, it therefore loses potential energy of (hf /c2 >> >> You just dishonestly cut out half of the formula, which in full is > > > >> (hf/c^2).deltaV >> >> Where deltaV is a change in gravitational potential. > > Really, you call that dishonest, Yes .. VERY > ok E=(hf/c^2)deltaV, have your deltaV > with itstill doesn't change what I said, yes .. it does. > you are just trying to dance > around the issue No .. that's what you are doing now that your dishonesty (or stupidity) is exposed > This equation at end of statement, is clearly equivalent to E=hf/c^2 No .. it is not. > fromhttp://usna.edu/Users/physics/mungan/Publications/TPT11.pdf > > I'll just leave it like that and let the people judge for themselves So you lie and run away. You're a coward. |