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From: kado on 23 Jan 2010 20:54 I answer this for the benefit of Spencer Spindrift and all the others that may be reading this, not the poster On Jan 23, 4:19 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > > It is something we find experimentally. > This is true. True scientists must use the Natural Phenomena demonstrated by Nature to advance knowledge. Nevertheless, are the conclusions about the effects of these empirical experiments reached by these people correct and true? Or are these tainted by dogmas. D.Y.K.
From: Inertial on 23 Jan 2010 21:01 <kado(a)nventure.com> wrote in message news:02ca5ab9-ecce-4d56-9fae-081f55cabbd5(a)d14g2000vbb.googlegroups.com... > > I answer this for the benefit of Spencer Spindrift and > all the others that may be reading this, not the poster Why .. what are you afraid of that you won't reply to me? > > On Jan 23, 4:19 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > >> >> It is something we find experimentally. >> > > This is true. True scientists must use the Natural > Phenomena demonstrated by Nature to advance > knowledge. Yeup .. as it should > Nevertheless, are the conclusions about the effects > of these empirical experiments reached by these > people correct and true? The effects are what we empirically measure > Or are these tainted by > dogmas. If you mean by the models we construct of reality .. if they are found to be at odds with the experimental evidence, it is the models that are changed. Unless any tainting is consistent with the evidence, then it won't last.
From: cjcountess on 23 Jan 2010 21:41 On Jan 23, 8:18 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > "cjcountess" <cjcount...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:2d959bbb-dadd-4afa-b1cc-661654ad3ba7(a)21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... > > > One more example of E=hf/c^2 > >http://www.plambeck.org/oldhtml/physics/physicspedestrian9.pdf > > page 119 problem 8-6c > > It is wrong. Amazing you've found someone else as stupid as you. You do > realize that this isn't a physics text .. it is notes from someone who is > having troubles learning physics .. its clear why. > > E = hf > > NOT > > E = hf/c^2 > > Look at the units .. hf/c^2 has units of MASS ONLY. It is NOT an energy > value !! Do you read yourself? Even if hf/c^2, has unites of mass, still it can be equal to E, just as E can = mc^2 which also has units of mass. Now you are begining to not make sense. > AS the author says "here are my notes .. I can't imagine why anyone would > want to read them" > > Really .. you're getting desperate now .. are you just googling thru every > web pages trying to find someone else who made you mistake? > > Try again. Whats wrong, didn't see this? John Archibald Wheeler is repitable, isn't he? I guess me and that other author are in good company. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4TSHB_.... Using above Google search I found Spacetime physics: introduction to special relativity - Google Books Result by Edwin F. Taylor, John Archibald Wheeler - 1992 - Science - 312 pages Use the Einstein relation between photon energy £ and classical wave frequency / namely £CTM = WOT E = hf/c2 and £' = hf/c2, to derive the transformations Conrad J Countess
From: cjcountess on 23 Jan 2010 21:51 More info on John Archibald Wheeler http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=john+archibald+wheeler&rlz=1R2TSHB_enUS361&aq=0&aql=&aqi=g10&oq=John+Arch John A. Wheeler, Physicist Who Coined the Term 'Black Hole,' Is ... Apr 14, 2008 ... Mr. Wheeler Conrad J Countess
From: Inertial on 24 Jan 2010 01:07
"cjcountess" <cjcountess(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f4b98341-db33-4b35-a3a3-951d29b1561d(a)b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... > More info on John Archibald Wheeler > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=john+archibald+wheeler&rlz=1R2TSHB_enUS361&aq=0&aql=&aqi=g10&oq=John+Arch > > John A. Wheeler, Physicist Who Coined the Term 'Black Hole,' Is ... > Apr 14, 2008 ... Mr. Wheeler > > Conrad J Countess What has that to do with the nonsense you posted? *HE* does not claim that E = hf/c^2. No physicist would. |