From: Mark on
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:23:26 +0000, David Kennedy wrote
(in article <N9GdndzDuYpz6dDWnZ2dnUVZ8nVi4p2d(a)brightview.co.uk>):

> SM wrote:
>> David Kennedy<davidkennedy(a)nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> SM wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wave Editor will import and export .flac although I've never needed to:
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/waveeditor/>
>>>
>>> Thanks Stuart. I'll have a look at that.
>>
>> It's very good in general, but for editing .flac files it might be a bit
>> like using Pages to edit Word docs as opposed to working natively.
>>
>> Stuart
>
> All I really need is something to convert the odd file.
>
>

MacFlac? Max? Not used these, but for some reason I have them in my apps
folder. I think I was trying to convert some .flac files many months go.

Cheers ... Mark

From: David Kennedy on
Mark wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:15:06 +0000, SM wrote
> (in article<1jc8880.17y28wrvmdf40N%info(a)that.sundog.co.uk>):
>
>> David Kennedy<davidkennedy(a)nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> SM wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wave Editor will import and export .flac although I've never needed to:
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/waveeditor/>
>>>
>>> Thanks Stuart. I'll have a look at that.
>>
>> It's very good in general, but for editing .flac files it might be a bit
>> like using Pages to edit Word docs as opposed to working natively.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>
> Here's a little dookickey that's supposed to let you play .flac files in
> iTunes without converting:
>
> <http://blowintopieces.com/fluke/>
>
> Cheers ... Mark
>
Worth a look. Thanks.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
David Kennedy <davidkennedy(a)nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote:

> SM wrote:
> > David Kennedy<davidkennedy(a)nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> SM wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Wave Editor will import and export .flac although I've never needed to:
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/waveeditor/>
> >>
> >> Thanks Stuart. I'll have a look at that.
> >
> > It's very good in general, but for editing .flac files it might be a bit
> > like using Pages to edit Word docs as opposed to working natively.
> >
> > Stuart
>
> All I really need is something to convert the odd file.

I've found Max to be generally the least annoying for that job, IIRC.

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From: Woody on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
>
> > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > > Soundstudio, cubase, logic, amadeus - most applications that write audio
> > > > at any sort of level since system 7 I would have thought.
> > >
> > > You know that's bullshit - I've never seen a reference to compressed
> > > AIFF before you mentioned it, so that tells me hardly anything can play
> > > the format. You could only think of professional apps - no QuickTime, I
> > > notice...
> >
> > Load up the old QuickTime 7 Player on your Intel 10.6 box (it should be
> > QuickTime Pro).
>
> Which I've not bought, so that's out.
>
> > Load an audio file into it.
>
> But I'm not going to pay money to buy QT Pro just to look at this.
>
> > Choose "File->Export..."
>
> But I'm not going to pay money to buy QT Pro just to look at this.
>
> > Click the 'Export:' dropdown and choose "Sound to Aiff"
>
> But I'm not going to pay money to buy QT Pro just to look at this.
>
> > Click 'Options..."
>
> But I'm not going to pay money to buy QT Pro just to look at this.
>
> > The 'Format:' dropdown currently says "Linear PCM" which is indeed
> > uncompressed. There are two others in there though, "IMA 4:1" and
> > "Quallcomm PureVoice". The Quallcomm one I don't know about, but the IMA
> > 4:1 format offers 4:1 compression (as you might have gathered by the
> > name)
>
> But I'm not going to pay money to buy QT Pro just to look at this.
>
> I'm puzzled - that surely is lossy, since there seems no way to compress
> *any* audio file that much without data loss. Hmm. RTFW. Yep, it's
> lossy. Lossy compression is not what we're talking about.

There are many ways of compressing *any* file that isn't entirely
random.



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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:
> > Elliott Roper <nospam(a)yrl.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > It seems to be embedded into the genes of Manchester live music
> > > organisers that 5% THD is optimum.
> >
> > I don't understand what this means. I tried reading the wiki on Total
> > Harmonic Distortion, but I guess I'm getting a bit fick in my old age
> > cos I didn't really understand the guts of it.
> >
> > Is 5% a good thing because it's not very much, and it used to be 10%?
> > Is 5% a bad thing because it's way too much and it should be .001%?
> >
>
> It should be as low as possible. In the house, on your stereo, 1% THD
> would be awful.

Not necessarily. THD is not the guide you might think it is. 1% THD
isn't that bad overall - and is quite normal from a lot of decent
stereos. I'm not talking about the electrons coming out of the
amplifier, I'm talking about the reconstruction of the wavefront.

1% THD of the normal sort out of a conventional modern amp - yes, that's
nasty in a domestic setting, but you try cranking up an old valve amp
until it's running into distortion. Not a painful experience at all.

But there are other forms of assessment that give you different data
that's more useful than just THD when you gather it all into a set. Yer
intermodulation distortion, transient response, things like that. Thing
is, THD is easy to measure. But it's a steady state thing, and music
ain't steady.

[snip]

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