From: J. J. Lodder on
whisky-dave <whisky-dave(a)final.front.ear> wrote:

> "Rowland McDonnell" <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote in
> message
> news:1jc6n3w.9zakscrq1q9pN%real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid...
> > J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
> >
> >> Howard <Howard.not(a)home.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have been looking at a change to AAC for quality purposes...
> >> >
> >> > Anyone already moved over to AAC for use on their iPod or in the home
> >> > or
> >> > car ? What do you think ?
> >>
> >> The de-facto standard for lossless audio is .flac
> >
> > What does that mean, exactly? I'll tell you what you mean.
> >
> > What you really means is this: it's the only free lossless audio file
> > format that's had any significant takeup. But the available software
> > support is very poor on Macs at least.
>
> I use audacity for listening to FLAC then I use audacity LAME plugin
> to export to MP3 if I need to.
> I've noticed that FLAC seems to be more 'standard' form of lossless
> than Quicktimes lossless, although a friends band recodring studio seems to
> prefer
> sending/receiving wav files for audio as they don;t like FLAC (on a PC)for
> some reason.

Just Windoze blindness, I guess,
not invented here syndrome,

Jan
From: David Kennedy on
Elliott Roper wrote:
> In article<pPudnUOOtZ-Zg9HWnZ2dnUVZ8kti4p2d(a)brightview.co.uk>, David
> Kennedy<davidkennedy(a)nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Elliott Roper wrote:
>
>> Are you going to add .flac into the mix?
>
> Nah. I see no reason not to believe it really is lossless. Besides
> .flac is a royal pain in the bum on OS X. The only tools that play it
> directly that I have are of dubious provenance, so all it would prove
> is that the tool might be ok or that I'm bullshitting again.
>

I just wondered...

I agree that it's a pita as I've never found anything good that handles
it. Amadeus Pro?

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From: Elliott Roper on
In article <F82dnattIIU3KdHWnZ2dnUVZ8uadnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk>, David
Kennedy <davidkennedy(a)nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote:

> Elliott Roper wrote:
> > In article<pPudnUOOtZ-Zg9HWnZ2dnUVZ8kti4p2d(a)brightview.co.uk>, David
> > Kennedy<davidkennedy(a)nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> Elliott Roper wrote:
> >
> >> Are you going to add .flac into the mix?
> >
> > Nah. I see no reason not to believe it really is lossless. Besides
> > .flac is a royal pain in the bum on OS X. The only tools that play it
> > directly that I have are of dubious provenance, so all it would prove
> > is that the tool might be ok or that I'm bullshitting again.
> >
>
> I just wondered...
>
> I agree that it's a pita as I've never found anything good that handles
> it. Amadeus Pro?

I like it. But I'm currently using Toolplayer to convert .flac to
something sensible. If I were seriously looking at lossless, I'd
convert to ALC or AIFF and have my pure sound LSD trip.

Being a geriatric with flannel ears, I don't see much point in bursting
my download limits with stuff I can't hear any more. So I don't bother
with lossless acquisition all that much. If I buy the CD, it is as
lossless as I'm going to get, so I don't have any use for .flac

HOWEVER! If only there were a decent way of getting 5.1 or 7.1 DTS or
one of its uncles or aunts, that would be a different matter. I'd love
to get music recorded in full surround, but it is hard to find anyone
who sells it, or at least sells proper music recorded that way.

I�/think/ my Blu-Ray player will deal with some DTS audio disks, but
finding Mac software that produces anything other than hiss has been a
fail.

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From: David Kennedy on
Elliott Roper wrote:
>
> HOWEVER! If only there were a decent way of getting 5.1 or 7.1 DTS or
> one of its uncles or aunts, that would be a different matter. I'd love
> to get music recorded in full surround, but it is hard to find anyone
> who sells it, or at least sells proper music recorded that way.
>
> I /think/ my Blu-Ray player will deal with some DTS audio disks, but
> finding Mac software that produces anything other than hiss has been a
> fail.
>

I still have an unplayed copy of Quadraphenia here, never did get around
to quad vinyl...

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From: SM on
David Kennedy <davidkennedy(a)nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote:

> Elliott Roper wrote:
> > In article<pPudnUOOtZ-Zg9HWnZ2dnUVZ8kti4p2d(a)brightview.co.uk>, David
> > Kennedy<davidkennedy(a)nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> Elliott Roper wrote:
> >
> >> Are you going to add .flac into the mix?
> >
> > Nah. I see no reason not to believe it really is lossless. Besides
> > .flac is a royal pain in the bum on OS X. The only tools that play it
> > directly that I have are of dubious provenance, so all it would prove
> > is that the tool might be ok or that I'm bullshitting again.
> >
>
> I just wondered...
>
> I agree that it's a pita as I've never found anything good that handles
> it. Amadeus Pro?

Wave Editor will import and export .flac although I've never needed to:

<http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/waveeditor/>

Stuart
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