From: Elliott Roper on
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D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:

> Elliott Roper <nospam(a)yrl.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > My not so scientific theory is that
> > your ears and brain work really hard at fixing up un-natural noises
>
> I don't think that can be it. It doesn't make sense as an evolutionary
> outcome. I guess it could be a strange by-product of some other
> evolution, but I can't think what.
I probably could have put that better.
If one's brain evolved to process natural "analog" sound sources, then
it might struggle to re-fit distorted buggered about sound into
something it had evolved to recognise. How hard does it work to lose
the swirlies from over-compressed mp3?

My observation that my head hurts less after listening intently to
less distorted music fits that model.
Ian Shepherds "listen to unbuggered-about several times to recognise
buggered about" fits that too.

If you have ever been to live or canned public music events in
Manchester, you will know what I mean.

It seems to be embedded into the genes of Manchester live music
organisers that 5% THD is optimum.

The two counter-examples I can recall were Pink Floyd at Mayne Rd and
Miles Davis at the Apollo. And both go back years!

> I think that we are very *bad* at identifying low-level, background
> causes of stress and tiredness, and that unnatural sound is one of
> these. I think we have to learn how to identify poor-quality sound, and
> what's poor about it, and that it requires practice and concentration to
> do that well.

I do agree. But it still gives me a headache quicker than equally loud
good-quality sound. That requires more Disprin than practice.

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From: Howard on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> I have yet to be abel to listen to any such podcast. The information
> rate is appallingly low and I generally can't get to grips with the
> subject or even the way it's being talked about.

Sorry to hear that, I am lucky to have a 6Mb line and watched it in HD.
I have no doubt of your opinion about MP3 and AAC by the way.

H
From: Rowland McDonnell on
Howard <Howard.not(a)home.com> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > I have yet to be abel to listen to any such podcast. The information
> > rate is appallingly low and I generally can't get to grips with the
> > subject or even the way it's being talked about.
>
> Sorry to hear that, I am lucky to have a 6Mb line and watched it in HD.

I've got an 8MB/s line: digital data rate is not the problem. It is the
rate of transmission of useful semantic information from the content
decoded from the flow of bits tha I'm calling appallingly low.

And I meant `able', not `abel'. Pfft. What is it with me and typing
that I make mistakes like that? Okay, so I'm not liking this new ZX-
Spectrum style keyboard Apple gives new Mac buyers these days, but does
a crappy keyboard really make that much difference to reliability?
<shrug> Dunno, but it's slower to type on and my hands object to the
process more - I can now feel how come some folk end up with finger
joint problems due to typing. Never had that from any previous Apple
keyboard and that includes those which came with my Apple ][s and Mac
512Ke.

> I have no doubt of your opinion about MP3 and AAC by the way.

<raised eyebrow> Don't doubt my report, which is 100% accurate; do
doubt my conclusions, which are my ideas based on what I've read.

Don't take anyone's word for it - make yer bet, and test it yerself.

Rowland.

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From: D.M. Procida on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> And I meant `able', not `abel'. Pfft. What is it with me and typing
> that I make mistakes like that? Okay, so I'm not liking this new ZX-
> Spectrum style keyboard Apple gives new Mac buyers these days, but does
> a crappy keyboard really make that much difference to reliability?

It's - the small version - my favourite keyboard ever. Going back to a
full-travel keyboard is like horrible for me now. I was never a
touch-typist though.

Daniele
From: Jim on
D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > And I meant `able', not `abel'. Pfft. What is it with me and typing
> > that I make mistakes like that? Okay, so I'm not liking this new ZX-
> > Spectrum style keyboard Apple gives new Mac buyers these days, but does
> > a crappy keyboard really make that much difference to reliability?
>
> It's - the small version - my favourite keyboard ever. Going back to a
> full-travel keyboard is like horrible for me now. I was never a
> touch-typist though.

I've got the full-sized wired version of the Alu keyboard and love it to
bits. Enough so that I'm seriously considering buying one for use at
work on my Windows machine. With my own money.

Jim
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