From: Joel Koltner on
<krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
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> Would you be an employee of HP or the job shop?

I think the job shop, although I don't really know.

> I got half way through but the program (Syracuse) was a joke and I got
> bored.

I was just a handful of credits + a thesis away from finishing when my
employer went belly-up, so I stuck around for a year as a "research assistant"
(joke #1) to finish the coursework and then spent, um, three years (having
left and found a real job again) finishing my "thesis" (joke #2).

In retrospect I should have found a different professor (rather than going
with the first one I asked who I knew would agree to sponsor me) -- mine was a
perfectly decent and intelligent guy (and a very good teacher), but I was
never particularly interested in his specific areas of research. Oh well...

I did enjoy the coursework, though -- with very few exceptions, the time I put
into those was more than worth it.

Oddly, even while demonstrating my lack of being a very good student -- at
least insofar as study areas he was interested in went -- over those three
years, my professor was always "encourgaing" me to get a PhD. No way was I
going to sign up for that!

---Joel

From: Joel Koltner on
<krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:25:55 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
> <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>The problem might be that guys who go to business school are often no better
>>running a business at 40 than they are at 25. :-)
> You think the experience of running businesses into the ground teaches them
> something other than how to run a business into the ground? Practice makes
> perfect.

Yep!

> BTW, the owner of the company where I work is a business school grad. ;-)

The owner here dropped out of college*. :-) This is actually the second
company I've worked for where that was the case!

---Joel

* This was back in the '70s where you could still get a job at places like HP
with no college degree (e.g., Steve Wozniak, who was working for HP before
quitting to commit to Apple full-time, at which point he dropped out of
college as well); I think it's rather harder today to become successful if one
chooses this route.

From: Joel Koltner on
"mpm" <mpmillard(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> Unless I were applying for a software game-development type job, I
> think I'd have a huge hangup about even mentioning the word
> "zilla" (in all its assorted falvors) in any job interview
> situation. :)

Well, pretty much all companies that develop software use some form of
bug-tracking these days, and Bugzilla is certainly a very popular form based
on its feature set and the fact that it's freely available. I don't think
anyone cares about the name all that much...

That being said, if you apply at some company making some little digital
widget that you can reasonably understand all the piece-parts of (say, an MP3
player or PDA or GPS receiver) and they tell you they've got hundreds or
thousands of bugs in their bug-tracking system, I wouldn't recommend accepting
the job offer. John Larkin has the right idea here -- even though his
products aren't as complex software-wise as an MP3 player, I think his
bug-list count seldom exceeds one digit.

---Joel

From: Joel Koltner on
"Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> And being able to draw a schematic in a way that it looks nice and is easy
> to read by others. Not in "cram-it-in-there" style.

....unless they're going to work for the Japanese radio manufacturers :-)...


From: Joerg on
Joel Koltner wrote:
> <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
> news:k08qs55alg80oep63p14bj3n9vfip7ostc(a)4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:25:55 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
>> <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> The problem might be that guys who go to business school are often no
>>> better
>>> running a business at 40 than they are at 25. :-)
>> You think the experience of running businesses into the ground teaches
>> them
>> something other than how to run a business into the ground? Practice
>> makes
>> perfect.
>
> Yep!
>
>> BTW, the owner of the company where I work is a business school grad.
>> ;-)
>
> The owner here dropped out of college*. :-) This is actually the second
> company I've worked for where that was the case!
>

This guy even dropped out of school, yet succeeded:

http://www.ltbn.com/hall_of_fame/Branson.html

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