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From: Kit on 7 Nov 2007 05:22 In article <47318636$0$23959$5a62ac22(a)per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, Andy <nospam(a)no.no> wrote: > Several of the G4 PowerMacs can. Mine (MDD Dual 1GHz) can, but Classic > is a waste of time IMHO. Of course it is a waste of time for you if you don't need to run any Classic programs. Just as Photoshop is a waste of time for me because I don't do stuff with photos and iTunes is a waste of time for me because I don't listen to music on my computer. However, some people need (or maybe just enjoy) programs that require Classic, so Classic is not a waste of time for them. Obviously Apple have decided that it is a waste of their time and other resources to support Classic and that is a perfectly valid commercial decision for them to make. However, some of us would still like to find an alternative way to run our old programs. Kit
From: Ilgaz Öcal on 7 Nov 2007 05:34 On 2007-11-07 05:03:17 +0200, Wes Groleau <groleau+news(a)freeshell.org> said: > Kir�ly wrote: >> Rebooting to get to Classic would be a bit of a pain in the butt, I >> agree, but if Boot Campers can do it to get to Windows... > > Why reboot into Tiger to get to Classic? > > If you are going to reboot anyway, > might as well reboot to straight OS 9 G5s can't boot OS 9, I think that is why. Also for current time, it is nice to have a ~6 GB 10.4.10 partition in startup volume labeled as "Repair" with NO HACKS installed and just utilities as Disk Warrior, Techtool (if you purchased it). Even Disk Utility can do great work. I do it since my Amiga days and it never hurts. What is 6 GB in current HD scene anyway? :) It is also great to test new software before installing to main boot partition or test new devices. Ilgaz
From: Ilgaz Öcal on 7 Nov 2007 05:37 On 2007-11-07 12:22:53 +0200, Kit <kitzyme(a)yahoo.com> said: > In article > <47318636$0$23959$5a62ac22(a)per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, Andy > <nospam(a)no.no> wrote: > >> Several of the G4 PowerMacs can. Mine (MDD Dual 1GHz) can, but Classic >> is a waste of time IMHO. > > Of course it is a waste of time for you if you don't need to run any > Classic programs. Just as Photoshop is a waste of time for me because > I don't do stuff with photos and iTunes is a waste of time for me > because I don't listen to music on my computer. However, some people > need (or maybe just enjoy) programs that require Classic, so Classic is > not a waste of time for them. > > Obviously Apple have decided that it is a waste of their time and other > resources to support Classic and that is a perfectly valid commercial > decision for them to make. However, some of us would still like to > find an alternative way to run our old programs. > > Kit I think the Classic drop on Leopard has something to do with some very low level Carbon calls being depreciated (and dropped) and pure 64bit. I went mad to Apple abandoning billions of lines of work/history but if this is the case, they should put a small knowledge base article explaining. They have some marvellous PR but on Technical issues, they lack it. Ilgaz
From: Warren Oates on 7 Nov 2007 07:47 In article <47318636$0$23959$5a62ac22(a)per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, Andy <nospam(a)no.no> wrote: > Several of the G4 PowerMacs can. Mine (MDD Dual 1GHz) can, but Classic > is a waste of time IMHO. My upgraded-processor Sawtooth will probably boot Leopard, and it will certainly boot 9.2.2 (which it doesn't, because I've got my 10 gig 9.2.2 hard disk sitting in an anti-static bag in a box somewhere in the basement, but still ...). Hmm. I can probably try booting over the LAN, since I put ('restored') my Leopard install disc on a nice clean partition on the Mac Pro, but I haven't got 2 licenses, so That Would Be Wrong; what if I kept my eyes closed? -- W. Oates
From: Jolly Roger on 7 Nov 2007 09:26
In article <nospam.m-m-71EE9D.05380307112007(a)cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com>, M-M <nospam.m-m(a)ny.more> wrote: > In article <071120071005345128%kitzyme(a)yahoo.com>, > Kit <kitzyme(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > In article <071120070119261995%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam > > <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > > > > > In article <071120070913279132%kitzyme(a)yahoo.com>, Kit > > > <kitzyme(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Every time it tries to access the bootable OS9 install CD SheepShaver > > > > crashes. I know the CD is bootable because (on my MDD G4) I can boot > > > > into OS9 from it. > > > > > > what version of os9? > > > > OS 9.0 > > Which ROM version are you using? > Are you sure the CD is not machine-specific to your MDD G4? I was about to ask the same question. Which ROM you use definitely matters. -- Note: Please send all responses to the relevant news group. If you must contact me through e-mail, let me know when you send email to this address so that your email doesn't get eaten by my SPAM filter. JR |