From: BillW50 on
In news:hjq7vt$g2i$1(a)news.eternal-september.org,
BillW50 typed onWed, 27 Jan 2010 14:33:54 -0600 :
> In news:slrnhm0mno.9km.SDA(a)laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org,
> S. Fishpaste typed on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:25:44 -0500:
> It is running Xandros Linux and EeePC 1.01 desktop on top of KDE. You
> can see the KDE version only by hacking the OS to use the KDE desktop.
> Mine has been reinstalled so I can't see it without hacking it. Maybe
> AJL knows. He is running the same version on his Surf.
>
> The newest version of EeePC desktop is 1.05 I believe. And the newer
> ones adds drive letters to Linux drives. I guess Windows users can't
> find the drives without drive letters. Not something that I need. So I
> have avoided upgrading the desktop.

On installing it on another SSD, it says the following during the
install:

ISOLinux 3.11 2005-09-02 Copyright (C) 1994-2005 H. Peter Anvin

Does that mean anything to you? Is that the Linux kernel version? And
who is this Peter Anvin guy? Is he taking charge of the kernel for Linus
Torvalds?

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3


From: the wharf rat on
In article <hjqac8$7qt$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>
>Does that mean anything to you? Is that the Linux kernel version? And

It's just the bootloader.


From: AJL on
BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:

>Was Open Office pre-installed on the 2G Surf,
>or did you get it from the Asus server?

It was pre-installed.

>I found an Open Office update
>through Add/Remove, but I don't see any changes whatsoever. Even the
>version number is the same.

With Linux the same app version can be coded differently for different
OS versions. I understand the Asus Eee Xandros is even different from
the standard version. I've had some luck with apps from deb
repositories but it's hit or miss.

>I am using the same DVD recovery disc all of the time. Maybe that is the
>problem. I have other recovery disc, so maybe I should try one of those.

I would think using the recovery disk that came with that netbook
would be the best thing to try. Course you will wipe everything but
that may be less of a pain than what you're now doing.

>Good luck with Ubuntu 9.10. Hopefully you can find all of the drivers.
>For me, the WiFi and the webcam is the hardest to get working.

This installation went without a hitch on both my Acer 15" and this
Eee 10". The wireless was recognized immediately on both. They have
improved boot time to around 30 seconds. First impressions: it seems a
little faster than Vista and a little slower than XP. But it's fun to
play with and I'm only using 30GB so no big strain on the drive.
From: BillW50 on
AJL wrote on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:33:25 -0700:
> BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> Was Open Office pre-installed on the 2G Surf,
>> or did you get it from the Asus server?
>
> It was pre-installed.

Oh was it Thunderbird that you downloaded?

>> I found an Open Office update
>> through Add/Remove, but I don't see any changes whatsoever. Even the
>> version number is the same.
>
> With Linux the same app version can be coded differently for different
> OS versions. I understand the Asus Eee Xandros is even different from
> the standard version. I've had some luck with apps from deb
> repositories but it's hit or miss.

Interesting... I'd be interested in the ones that worked.

>> I am using the same DVD recovery disc all of the time. Maybe that is the
>> problem. I have other recovery disc, so maybe I should try one of those.
>
> I would think using the recovery disk that came with that netbook
> would be the best thing to try. Course you will wipe everything but
> that may be less of a pain than what you're now doing.

I tried different RAM, different SSD, and the original DVD recovery for
this machine (I really believe all 701, 702, and 900 Xandros DVD
recovery disc are all the same and other models might be as well). Used
the BIOS OS Start and Finished too. The only thing that does as far as I
can tell is to kick the USB ports down to USB1.1 speeds and kick the
webcam off. But I don't see any difference when installing an OS except
the USB ports are slower.

The webcam is said to screw up the USB ports if it is operating at
USB1.1 speeds. As it has one speed and that is USB2. Plus I can see an
OS getting confused seeing an unknown device during an install. But most
of the time, the OEM version of Windows or the Xandros install, I don't
see any reason to change it from OS finished during an install. It might
help if you use a retail version of Windows or another Linux distro.
Otherwise I don't notice any difference. The OS Start BIOS setting turns
off the webcam too. So when you change it back to OS finished, you also
need to set the webcam back to enabled.

>> Good luck with Ubuntu 9.10. Hopefully you can find all of the drivers.
>> For me, the WiFi and the webcam is the hardest to get working.
>
> This installation went without a hitch on both my Acer 15" and this
> Eee 10". The wireless was recognized immediately on both. They have
> improved boot time to around 30 seconds. First impressions: it seems a
> little faster than Vista and a little slower than XP. But it's fun to
> play with and I'm only using 30GB so no big strain on the drive.

How fast does it connect to the WiFi? As the EeePC boots up Xandros very
fast in 20 seconds in easy mode. Windows XP takes 50 seconds. Xandros in
advanced mode takes 40 seconds. But Xandros takes about 40 seconds for
the WiFi to connect. So Windows XP is faster since it only takes less
than a few seconds to connect.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)
From: S. Fishpaste on
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:14:37 -0600, BillW50 in comp.sys.laptops wrote:
> In news:hjq7vt$g2i$1(a)news.eternal-september.org,
> BillW50 typed onWed, 27 Jan 2010 14:33:54 -0600 :
>> In news:slrnhm0mno.9km.SDA(a)laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org,
>> S. Fishpaste typed on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:25:44 -0500:
>> It is running Xandros Linux and EeePC 1.01 desktop on top of KDE. You
>> can see the KDE version only by hacking the OS to use the KDE desktop.
>> Mine has been reinstalled so I can't see it without hacking it. Maybe
>> AJL knows. He is running the same version on his Surf.
>>
>> The newest version of EeePC desktop is 1.05 I believe. And the newer
>> ones adds drive letters to Linux drives. I guess Windows users can't
>> find the drives without drive letters. Not something that I need. So I
>> have avoided upgrading the desktop.
>
> On installing it on another SSD, it says the following during the
> install:
>
> ISOLinux 3.11 2005-09-02 Copyright (C) 1994-2005 H. Peter Anvin
>
> Does that mean anything to you? Is that the Linux kernel version? And
> who is this Peter Anvin guy? Is he taking charge of the kernel for Linus
> Torvalds?

Nah. I thought you knew your away around a Linux installation. <sigh>

Why don't you use a modern Linux distro like Ubuntu? It's made for
folks like you and works on EEEPCs -- I installed it on several for
clients. Works out of the box; everything including the camera. You'll
aslo get a modern version of OOo. Xandros is a POS IMO.