From: AJL on
BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:

>AJL wrote on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:33:25 -0700:
>> BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>>> Was Open Office pre-installed on the 2G Surf,
>>> or did you get it from the Asus server?
>>
>> It was pre-installed.
>
>Oh was it Thunderbird that you downloaded?

Yes I downloaded TB. The Surf just has an email icon that opens
Firefox to the web based Gmail site. That's what you get with the
economy model.

>I'd be interested in the [downloaded to the Surf] ones that worked.

Some I remember are Sea Monkey, Wine, Kmail, Knode (posted here
several times using it), and FBReader. I finally got into trouble
after downloading an errant app and couldn't fix it so I finally had
to do the dreaded F9 reset and everything went *poof*. And after all
that work (fun?) too... It's been stock ever since.

>I really believe all 701, 702, and 900 Xandros DVD
>recovery disc are all the same and other models might be as well).

My Surf recovery disk says 2G Series Linux Recovery CD Rev 1.0 dated
11-20-07. For comparison the disk has a 'boot' and 'p701L.gz' folders
plus 3 small (0, 4, and 6 byte) files. That may be a clue as to if
they are all the same or not.

>How fast does it connect to the WiFi?

My Eee PC Surf netbook WiFi is very slow. It boots in 25 seconds but
there is another 30 seconds or so after that before the wireless
connects.

My Eee PC 1000HD netbook:
XP: Boots in 35 seconds wireless 5 seconds later.
Ubuntu: Boots in 30 second wireless already accessed when desktop
chimes occur.

My Acer 5516 Notebook:
Vista: Boots in 55 seconds wireless working 5 seconds later although
the icon still shows it disconnected. The icon doesn't update until
several seconds later, one of those weird Vista things I guess.
Ubuntu: Boots in 35 seconds and wireless also immediate like on the
1000HD.

(I have my Grub bootloader set at 5 seconds but that's not included in
the above times.)

BTW The OpenOffice on Ubuntu 9.10 is version 3.1 and the spell checker
works... ;)
From: felmon on
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:56:09 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

>> Okay now downloading the deb version of OpenOffice. Site still doesn't
>> like IE7 for downloading. While Firefox is still working okay with it.
>
> Same thing.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> dirname: extra operand `Documents/OO/update' Try `dirname --help' for
> more information.

sorry but I am not sure what this all refers to.

one method is: you download the .deb file first, then go to the
commandline and do

sudo dpkg -i file.deb

is this the point where you are getting the errors? (sorry, I may have
missed a stretch of the thread.)


Felmon
From: S. Fishpaste on
I should have mentioned that the installations of Ubuntu that I've
done on the ASUS netbooks, boot-up into GUI in about 5 seconds. Very
fast wireless as well.
From: BillW50 on
felmon wrote on Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:45:36 -0600:
> On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:56:09 -0600, BillW50 wrote:
>
>>> Okay now downloading the deb version of OpenOffice. Site still doesn't
>>> like IE7 for downloading. While Firefox is still working okay with it.
>> Same thing.
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> dirname: extra operand `Documents/OO/update' Try `dirname --help' for
>> more information.
>
> sorry but I am not sure what this all refers to.
>
> one method is: you download the .deb file first, then go to the
> commandline and do
>
> sudo dpkg -i file.deb
>
> is this the point where you are getting the errors? (sorry, I may have
> missed a stretch of the thread.)

Hi Felmon! No I didn't try that. I'm going to try that now. How I did
it, was I extracted the package and ran the script called update which
looks like this:

#!/bin/sh

GNOMEXCMDS="/usr/bin/gksu"
GNOMECMDS="/usr/bin/gnome-terminal /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-terminal"
KDEXCMDS="/usr/bin/kdesu /opt/kde/bin/kdesu /opt/kde?/bin/kdesu"
KDECMDS="/usr/bin/konsole /opt/kde/bin/konsole /opt/kde?/bin/konsole"
MISCCMDS="/usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator /usr/X11/bin/xterm
/usr/openwin/bin/xterm"

TITLE='OpenOffice.org update'

#
# Usage
#

Usage () {
if [ "`basename $0`" = "update" ]; then
echo "Usage: `basename $0` [<path to OpenOffice.org installation>]"
fi
echo
exit 2
}

make_tempfile() {

# Always prefer mktemp when available
if [ -x "$MKTEMP" ]; then
"$MKTEMP" "/tmp/$1.XXXXXX"
else
TMPCMD="/tmp/$1.$$"
touch $TMPCMD
echo $TMPCMD
fi

}

#
# make_command_file - generate a command file to pass to xterm & co
#
run_in_terminal () {

TMPCMD=`make_tempfile 'OpenOffice.org-Online-Update'`

cat >> $TMPCMD

cat >> $TMPCMD << \EOF
if [ $? -eq 0 -a ! -z "$DISPLAY" ]; then
echo
echo "Press <Enter> to close this window"
read DUMMY
fi
EOF

cat >> $TMPCMD << EOF
rm -f $TMPCMD
EOF

chmod a+x $TMPCMD
exec "$@" -e $TMPCMD
}

#
# run the command line passed as positional parameters either via
# gksu/kdesu or via su command in a terminal emulator.
#
elevate() {

TITLEOPT=""
GEOMOPT=""
case `basename $XTERM` in
"xterm")
TITLEOPT="-title"
GEOMOPT="-geometry "
;;
"gnome-terminal" | "konsole" | "x-terminal-emulator")
TITLEOPT="--title"
GEOMOPT="--geometry="
;;
esac

case `basename $SU` in
"kdesu" )
# --caption
SUOPT="-t"
;;
"gksu" )
# --title
SUOPT=""
;;
"su" )
SUOPT="- root -c"
;;
esac

( echo "echo The application \"$@\" will update your OpenOffice.org
installation."
echo "echo"
echo "$SU" "$SUOPT" "$@"
) | run_in_terminal "$XTERM" "$TITLEOPT" "$TITLE" ${GEOMOPT}+300+300
}


update_pkg() {
ADMINFILE=`make_tempfile 'OpenOffice.org-Online-Update-admin'`

cat >> $ADMINFILE << EOF
action=nocheck
conflict=nocheck
setuid=nocheck
idepend=nocheck
rdepend=nocheck
mail=
EOF

PKGLIST=""
for i in `cd $1; ls -d *`; do
pkginfo -q $i && PKGLIST="$PKGLIST $i"
done

pkgrm -n -a $ADMINFILE $PKGLIST
pkgadd -n -a $ADMINFILE -d $1 $PKGLIST

rm -f $ADMINFILE
}

#
# main
#

CMD="`basename $0`"
BASEDIR="`dirname $0`"
ABSBASEDIR="`cd $BASEDIR; pwd`"

if [ -z "$DISPLAY" ]; then
SU="su"
XTERM=""
else
# define search order depending on the desktop in use ..
if [ "`uname -s`" = "SunOS" ]; then
XPROP=/usr/openwin/bin/xprop
GREP=/usr/xpg4/bin/grep
MKTEMP=/usr/bin/mktemp
else
if [ -x /usr/X11/bin/xprop ]; then
XPROP=/usr/X11/bin/xprop
else
XPROP=/usr/bin/xprop
fi
GREP=grep
MKTEMP=/bin/mktemp
fi

# use desktop specific tools where possible, but prefer X11 su over
terminal emulators
if $XPROP -root | $GREP -q '^KWIN_RUNNING'; then
SULIST="$KDEXCMDS $GNOMEXCMDS"
XTERMLIST="$KDECMDS $MISCCMDS"
else
SULIST="$GNOMEXCMDS $KDEXCMDS"
XTERMLIST="$GNOMECMDS $MISCCMDS"
fi

# search for the first available terminal emulator
for i in $XTERMLIST; do
if [ -x $i ]; then
XTERM=$i
break
fi
done

# we prefer gksu or kdesu if available
SU="su"
for i in $SULIST; do
if [ -x $i ]; then
SU=$i
break
fi
done
fi

if [ "$CMD" = "update" ]; then
if [ $# -gt 0 ]; then
[ -d $1 -a $# -eq 1 ] || Usage
elevate "$ABSBASEDIR/$CMD"
else
if [ -d "$BASEDIR/RPMS" ]; then
# do not use --hash as the control sequence to edit the current
line does not work
# in our setup (at least not with kdesu)
rpm -v --freshen `find "$BASEDIR"/RPMS -name '*.rpm'`
elif [ -d "$BASEDIR/DEBS" ]; then
dpkg --install --selected-only --recursive "$BASEDIR"/DEBS
elif [ -d "$BASEDIR/packages" ]; then
update_pkg "$BASEDIR/packages"
fi
fi
else
Usage
fi

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)
From: BillW50 on
felmon wrote:
> one method is: you download the .deb file first, then go to the
> commandline and do
>
> sudo dpkg -i file.deb
>
> is this the point where you are getting the errors? (sorry, I may have
> missed a stretch of the thread.)

Okay the package is called
"OOo_3.1.1_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz". And that is too long to
type so I renamed it to "OOdeb.tar.gz". Then I ran:

sudo dpkg -i OOdeb.tar.gz

And deb reported the following:

/home/user/My Documents/OO> sudo dpkg -i OOdeb.tar.gz
dpkg-deb: `OOdeb.tar.gz' is not a debian format archive
dpkg: error processing OOdeb.tar.gz (--install):
subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
OOdeb.tar.gz

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)