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From: Joe Wangkauf on 30 Jan 2010 02:22 In article <jollyroger-6970C5.00033630012010(a)news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > Mac OS X, being Unix, already has GNU emacs built in. In Mac OS X 10.6, > it's GNU Emacs 22.1.1. So there's no need to download and install > anything. Try this: > > 1. Open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal. > 2. Enter the command: emacs > > I'm a little surprised someone with a Linux background wouldn't have > discovered this on their own! Wow.. I've been using OS X since 10.4 and I never looked for that... I did look for vi tho the first night I got my Mac.. which some would say is even /more/ shameful.. ;-) -- .... something witty goes here ...
From: Jolly Roger on 30 Jan 2010 10:58 In article <290120102322135893%tmo1138(a)invalid.gmail.domain.com>, Joe Wangkauf <tmo1138(a)invalid.gmail.domain.com> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-6970C5.00033630012010(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > Mac OS X, being Unix, already has GNU emacs built in. In Mac OS X 10.6, > > it's GNU Emacs 22.1.1. So there's no need to download and install > > anything. Try this: > > > > 1. Open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal. > > 2. Enter the command: emacs > > > > I'm a little surprised someone with a Linux background wouldn't have > > discovered this on their own! > > Wow.. I've been using OS X since 10.4 and I never looked for that... I > did look for vi tho the first night I got my Mac.. which some would say > is even /more/ shameful.. ;-) I'm a long-time vi/vim veteran. It pays to know how to use vi/vim for someone in my field. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: David Rogoff on 30 Jan 2010 13:08 On 2010-01-29 22:03:36 -0800, Jolly Roger said: > In article <4b63781f$0$30309$c37e2936(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: > >> Hi all. More switcher (in multiple ways) question: >> >> I'm a long-time emacs user (since 18.57 back in '88). For about 13/14 >> years I've been using xemacs, on Solaris, Linux, and WinXP. I've >> switched at home to Mac (10.6.2) and was looking at emacs for it. The >> old xemacs port seems to be dead and xemacs development in general is >> glacial at best. >> >> So, I figured I'd also try switching to the gnu version of emacs. I'm >> working on the Linux and WinXP versions, but I could use advice for my >> Mac. I see Aquamacs (aquamacs.org) and Carbon Emacs >> (http://homepage.mac.com/zenitani/emacs-e.html). I've looked for >> comparisons online, but they are all out of date. Can someone give me a >> current status of how these two compare: >> * integration with OSX >> * keeping up to date with gnu versions >> * anything else? > > Mac OS X, being Unix, already has GNU emacs built in. In Mac OS X 10.6, > it's GNU Emacs 22.1.1. So there's no need to download and install > anything. Try this: > > 1. Open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal. > 2. Enter the command: emacs Thanks - just tried this. Question: it comes up in tty mode. How do I get the normal GUI mode / multiple windows, etc? I also found out yesterday that I don't need to install a VNC client since OSX has one built in: /System/Library/CoreServices/Screen Sharing.app Works great to connect to my work WinXP box. David
From: Richard Maine on 30 Jan 2010 13:47 David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: > On 2010-01-29 22:03:36 -0800, Jolly Roger said: > > > Mac OS X, being Unix, already has GNU emacs built in. In Mac OS X 10.6, > > it's GNU Emacs 22.1.1. So there's no need to download and install > > anything. Try this: > > > > 1. Open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal. > > 2. Enter the command: emacs > > Thanks - just tried this. Question: it comes up in tty mode. How do I > get the normal GUI mode / multiple windows, etc? You download and install some other version of your choice. :-) That's what I used to do before I gradually drifted away from using emacs. Unless things have changed a lot, the one distributed with OS X does terminal mode only. I used to install xemacs, but I haven't gotten around to doing so on this machine, and I probably won't bother. (I just noticed that I still have my shell alias set to substitute xemacs when i type emacs, even though xemacs isn't installed; suppose I should delete that alias, which is currently counterproductive.) -- Richard Maine | Good judgment comes from experience; email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment. domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain
From: Joe Wangkauf on 30 Jan 2010 14:49
In article <jollyroger-D69868.09582930012010(a)news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > In article <290120102322135893%tmo1138(a)invalid.gmail.domain.com>, > Joe Wangkauf <tmo1138(a)invalid.gmail.domain.com> wrote: > > > In article <jollyroger-6970C5.00033630012010(a)news.individual.net>, > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > > > Mac OS X, being Unix, already has GNU emacs built in. In Mac OS X 10.6, > > > it's GNU Emacs 22.1.1. So there's no need to download and install > > > anything. Try this: > > > > > > 1. Open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal. > > > 2. Enter the command: emacs > > > > > > I'm a little surprised someone with a Linux background wouldn't have > > > discovered this on their own! > > > > Wow.. I've been using OS X since 10.4 and I never looked for that... I > > did look for vi tho the first night I got my Mac.. which some would say > > is even /more/ shameful.. ;-) > > I'm a long-time vi/vim veteran. It pays to know how to use vi/vim for > someone in my field. I've been using er.. the late 80's... I think? I used emacs on a PR1ME computer and then found vi. I've always just found vi/vim to 'just work'.. it's nice, simple and elegant. Emacs always pegged me as a solution looking for a problem. I don't fault Stallman's hard work at all. I mean it's obviously very powerful but I always feel like it's big and fat compared to how vi works. -- .... something witty goes here ... |