Are Electric Fields Distrorted By Gravity? [Physics]

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From: PD on 8 Aug 2010 19:31

On Aug 8, 5:59 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 15:11:09 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 8, 5:00 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> >> On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 17:03:59 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Aug 7, 5:13 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 05:51:32 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> there are none.
>
> >As I said...
>
> >> >This is religious fervor -- paying attention only to those things that
> >> >support what you want to believe.
>
> >> You should know all about religious fervour, diaper.
>
> >On the contrary, I like documented, corroborated, published results.
> >To you, that means nothing.
>
> >That's what marks what you do as religious fervor. Own it, Henry.
>
> there is not one piece of evidence that cannot be explained by BaTh.

Sorry, but BaTh adorned by gremlins carrying your name (like "Wilson
Magic Properties Bubbles") is not BaTh.
Moreover, BaTh makes certain predictions that are in conflict with
experiment, regardless whether you ignore the experiments with a wave
of your hand or not.

>
> Henry Wilson...
>
> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.

From: Y.Porat on 8 Aug 2010 23:59

On Aug 3, 11:30 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> Since gravitation exerts a force on both matter and light, might it not also
> affect electric and magnetic fields directly?
>
> If so, might it not follow that the artificial distortion of an electric or
> magnetic field should give rise to a gravitational force?
>
> Since magnetic and electric fields frequently coexist and since they provide
> the only known means of distorting each other, is it not conceivable that
> gravity is indeed just a manifestation of all the mutual field distortion
> present in all matter.
>
> Henry Wilson...
>
> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.

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indeed
since EM waves as any physical entity is a associated with mass - the
only one

therefore no wonder that gravity
is affecting EM waves
even the curvature of photons moving next to sun
is because photons has ***THE ***... mass
(and not because of curvature 'schmervature'' of space !!!)

ATB
Y.Porat
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ATB
Y.Porat
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From: dlzc on 9 Aug 2010 10:07

Dear Edward Green:

On Aug 8, 12:53 pm, Edward Green <spamspamsp...(a)netzero.com> wrote:
> On Aug 5, 10:01 am,dlzc<dl...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > On Aug 4, 3:29 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>
> > > On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 15:04:16 -0700 (PDT),dlzc<dl...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > ...
> > > >Note that materials affect electric (permittivity
> > > >is pretty constant but not exactly so) and magnetic
> > > >(ferro-, para- and dia-magnetism) fields
> > > >differently than there mass would otherwise
> > > >indicate.
>
> > > >I had hoped you would have asked if measurements
> > > >had been done to establish how those fields are
> > > >altered by "elevation" in a g field (as opposed
> > > >to "horizontal" distance). That would be
> > > >interesting...
>
> > > At least you are taking the question seriously
>
> > Except for your massive leap from "do these fields
> > deform" to "they must be the cause of gravitation".
>
> > > even if you don't have any answers...
>
> > I had an answer. The answer is, your conclusion
> > doesn't follow, as my jello example showed.
>
> I am reminded of irreversible thermo, though: if a
> gradient in A drives a flux in B, the converse is
> often true. Or maybe always true. (I'm not sure
> now if this is a theorem or a hypothesis).
> Obviously your jello example doesn't quite fit
> this mold.

Hah! Jello, mold... I get it.

Henry's supposition that creating a distorted E and/or M field
produces gravitation doesn't carry any weight either. He didn't wait
to see if there was any anomalous variance between E and/or M, and
light as used to establish a measured space.

David A. Smith

From: Henry Wilson DSc on 9 Aug 2010 17:45

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 16:31:16 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfamily(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 8, 5:59�pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 15:11:09 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Aug 8, 5:00�pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 17:03:59 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Aug 7, 5:13�pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 05:51:32 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> there are none.
>>
>> >As I said...
>>
>> >> >This is religious fervor -- paying attention only to those things that
>> >> >support what you want to believe.
>>
>> >> You should know all about religious fervour, diaper.
>>
>> >On the contrary, I like documented, corroborated, published results.
>> >To you, that means nothing.
>>
>> >That's what marks what you do as religious fervor. Own it, Henry.
>>
>> there is not one piece of evidence that cannot be explained by BaTh.
>
>Sorry, but BaTh adorned by gremlins carrying your name (like "Wilson
>Magic Properties Bubbles") is not BaTh.
>Moreover, BaTh makes certain predictions that are in conflict with
>experiment, regardless whether you ignore the experiments with a wave
>of your hand or not.

Name one

Henry Wilson...

........Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.

From: Henry Wilson DSc on 9 Aug 2010 17:46

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 20:59:21 -0700 (PDT), "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 3, 11:30�pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>> Since gravitation exerts a force on both matter and light, might it not also
>> affect electric and magnetic fields directly?
>>
>> If so, might it not follow that the artificial distortion of an electric or
>> magnetic field should give rise to a gravitational force?
>>
>> Since magnetic and electric fields frequently coexist and since they provide
>> the only known means of distorting each other, is it not conceivable that
>> gravity is indeed just a manifestation of all the mutual field distortion
>> present in all matter.
>>
>> Henry Wilson...
>>
>> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
>-----------------------
>indeed
>since EM waves as any physical entity is a associated with mass - the
>only one
>
>therefore no wonder that gravity
>is affecting EM waves
>even the curvature of photons moving next to sun
>is because photons has ***THE ***... mass
>(and not because of curvature 'schmervature'' of space !!!)

Dead right

>ATB
>Y.Porat
>-------------------------------
>
>ATB
>Y.Porat
>--------------

Henry Wilson...

........Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.