Are Electric Fields Distrorted By Gravity? [Physics]

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From: Henry Wilson DSc on 10 Aug 2010 18:24

On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:02:27 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfamily(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 9, 4:45�pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 16:31:16 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Aug 8, 5:59�pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
..
>>
>> >> there is not one piece of evidence that cannot be explained by BaTh.
>>
>> >Sorry, but BaTh adorned by gremlins carrying your name (like "Wilson
>> >Magic Properties Bubbles") is not BaTh.
>> >Moreover, BaTh makes certain predictions that are in conflict with
>> >experiment, regardless whether you ignore the experiments with a wave
>> >of your hand or not.
>>
>> Name one
>
>Already have.
>Alv�ger et al. (1964).

Don't be silly...

>It's also been noted that novas would first show up blue and then red
>over the course of the flash -- a firm prediction of BaTh -- which
>doesn't happen.

Several comments.
You cannot be certain which light was emitted first.

According to WaSh, the observed wavelength shift is mainly dependent on radial
acceleration and not velocity. Maximum acceleration does not necessarily occur
at the first instant of an explosion. Different regions would have a wiide
range of subsequent accelerations towards us.

It is also quite possible that light speed differs very slightly for different
wavelengths.

>You can soften but not remove that with extinction,
>and the X-ray and gamma-ray spectra (for which extinction doesn't
>really operate) also does not exhibit this.

Don't need extinction.....ADoppler explains it.

Henry Wilson...

........Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.

From: Henry Wilson DSc on 10 Aug 2010 18:27

On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 16:59:49 -0700 (PDT), mpc755 <mpc755(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 9, 6:17�pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 9, 4:59�pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The photon 'has the mass' because the photon is propagating through
>> > dark matter displaced by matter.
>>
>> The photon consists of darkly dark matter, which is propagating
>> through dark matter, unless the dark matter is displaced by matter,
>> which in turn is a compressed form of nearly dark matter. Matter has
>> mass, photons 'have mass', dark matter 'has' something that rhymes
>> with 'mass', darkly dark matter holds Mass on Saturdays, and nearly
>> dark matter brings huddled masses in through Ellis Island.
>>
>> One would be tempted to call all these kinds of dark matter just
>> different shades of gray matter, but there isn't a lick of gray matter
>> involved in anything Mike Cavedon says.
>
>http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html
>
>"Astronomers using NASA�s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
>of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
>galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
>somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
>water."
>
>Why are you unable and unwilling to answer the following question?
>
>What ripples?
>
>Dark matter ripples. Dark matter has mass. Dark matter is the medium
>of space. Three dimensional space consists of matter and dark matter.
>
>In the physics of nature the galaxy cluster collision creates a dark
>matter ripple.

Your idea is not completly stupid...just primitive.

Why don't you investigate MY theory that there are THREE mass dimensions, all
of which are mutually invisible.

Fields are made of M2 and M3.

Henry Wilson...

........Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.

From: Henry Wilson DSc on 10 Aug 2010 18:28

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 06:10:20 -0700 (PDT), "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 10, 10:50�am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 9, 11:46�pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 20:59:21 -0700 (PDT), "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >On Aug 3, 11:30�pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>> > >> Since gravitation exerts a force on both matter and light, might it not also
>> > >> affect electric and magnetic fields directly?
>>
>> > >> If so, might it not follow that the artificial distortion of an electric or
>> > >> magnetic field should give rise to a gravitational force?
>>
>> > >> Since magnetic and electric fields frequently coexist and since they provide
>> > >> the only known means of distorting each other, is it not conceivable that
>> > >> gravity is indeed just a manifestation of all the mutual field distortion
>> > >> present in all matter.
>>
>> > >> Henry Wilson...
>>
>> > >> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>>
>> > >-----------------------
>> > >indeed
>> > >since EM waves as any physical entity is a associated with �mass - the
>> > >only �one
>>
>> > >therefore �no wonder that gravity
>> > >is affecting � EM waves
>> > >even the curvature of photons moving next to sun
>> > >is because photons has ***THE ***... mass
>> > >(and not because of curvature 'schmervature'' �of space �!!!)
>> >-------------------------------------------------------
>> > Dead right
>> > Henry Wilson...
>>
>> --------------------------------
>> Thanks �Henry �!!!
>>
>> Y.Porat
>> =----------------------
>
>and BTW
>one think is obvious
>the EM field is generally many orders of magnitude stronger than
>the Gravity field
>so the influence of the gravity
>on the EM field
>can hardly be noticed

Dead right again, porat.

>ATB
>Y.Porat
>----------------------

Henry Wilson...

........Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.

From: PD on 10 Aug 2010 18:47

On Aug 10, 5:24 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:02:27 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 9, 4:45 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> >> On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 16:31:16 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Aug 8, 5:59 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> .
>
> >> >> there is not one piece of evidence that cannot be explained by BaTh..
>
> >> >Sorry, but BaTh adorned by gremlins carrying your name (like "Wilson
> >> >Magic Properties Bubbles") is not BaTh.
> >> >Moreover, BaTh makes certain predictions that are in conflict with
> >> >experiment, regardless whether you ignore the experiments with a wave
> >> >of your hand or not.
>
> >> Name one
>
> >Already have.
> >Alväger et al. (1964).
>
> Don't be silly...

Nothing silly about it. As I said, you like to ignore evidence that is
directly counter to your beliefs, which is the behavior of a religious
zealot.

>
> >It's also been noted that novas would first show up blue and then red
> >over the course of the flash -- a firm prediction of BaTh -- which
> >doesn't happen.
>
> Several comments.
> You cannot be certain which light was emitted first.

BaTh adorned with gremlins is not BaTh.

>
> According to WaSh, the observed wavelength shift is mainly dependent on radial
> acceleration and not velocity.

Mathematical expression, please. Please holster the BS.
BaTh adorned with gremlins is not BaTh.

> Maximum acceleration does not necessarily occur
> at the first instant of an explosion. Different regions would have a wiide
> range of subsequent accelerations towards us.
>
> It is also quite possible that light speed differs very slightly for different
> wavelengths.

BaTh adorned with gremlins is not BaTh.

>
> >You can soften but not remove that with extinction,
> >and the X-ray and gamma-ray spectra (for which extinction doesn't
> >really operate) also does not exhibit this.
>
> Don't need extinction.....ADoppler explains it.
>
> Henry Wilson...
>
> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.

From: mpc755 on 10 Aug 2010 18:50

On Aug 10, 6:27 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 16:59:49 -0700 (PDT), mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 9, 6:17 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Aug 9, 4:59 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > The photon 'has the mass' because the photon is propagating through
> >> > dark matter displaced by matter.
>
> >> The photon consists of darkly dark matter, which is propagating
> >> through dark matter, unless the dark matter is displaced by matter,
> >> which in turn is a compressed form of nearly dark matter. Matter has
> >> mass, photons 'have mass', dark matter 'has' something that rhymes
> >> with 'mass', darkly dark matter holds Mass on Saturdays, and nearly
> >> dark matter brings huddled masses in through Ellis Island.
>
> >> One would be tempted to call all these kinds of dark matter just
> >> different shades of gray matter, but there isn't a lick of gray matter
> >> involved in anything Mike Cavedon says.
>
> >http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
>
> >"Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> >of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> >galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> >somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> >water."
>
> >Why are you unable and unwilling to answer the following question?
>
> >What ripples?
>
> >Dark matter ripples. Dark matter has mass. Dark matter is the medium
> >of space. Three dimensional space consists of matter and dark matter.
>
> >In the physics of nature the galaxy cluster collision creates a dark
> >matter ripple.
>
> Your idea is not completly stupid...just primitive.
>
> Why don't you investigate MY theory that there are THREE mass dimensions, all
> of which are mutually invisible.
>
> Fields are made of M2 and M3.
>
> Henry Wilson...
>
> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.

As of today, there is no need for three mass types. Only two. Matter
and Dark Matter.

You are trying to understand the relationship between gravity,
magnetism, and electricity. All that is required to do so is the mass
associated with dark matter and matter.

Dark matter is displaced by matter.

Maxwell's displacement current is a displacement of dark matter.

Dark matter is not at rest when displaced by matter.
Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter.
Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.

You can over complicate the above if you choose. All that will do is
make you incorrect.

'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
A. EINSTEIN
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."

Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
dark matter and matter is energy.

Mass is conserved.

Dark Matter Displacement relates mass and energy with gravity,
magnetism and electricity.

Dark Matter Displacement is the most correct unified theory to date.