From: Hatunen on
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:22:03 +0000, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
<J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups(a)NTLWorld.COM> wrote:

>>
>>>>
>>>> Would Unix used in the seventies and eighties qualify as a first
>>>> cousin once removed? :-)
>>>>
>>> Shhh! The Linux users' calendar has no B.C. equivalent. Don't upset
>>> them with notions of a time before the Creation. Everyone knows the
>>> Truth. Torvalds created 4BSD, VMS, OS/360, and the other fossils just
>>> to give computer scientists an illusion of history.
>>>
>> But isn't the Epoch January 1st, 1970?
>>
>Linux users also use the POSIX dating system, which purports to show
>that the world existed before the Creation. Linux users know, however,
>that there is no proven basis for counting the vibrations of caesium
>atoms. 1970-01-01 00:00:10 TAI is an ecumenical sop to computer
>scientists. The true underpinning to the clock is, as every Linux user
>knows, hwclock --hctosys --localtime.

How can you trust a UNIX or Linux system when entering the
cammand cal 9 1752 give asuch a goofy answer?

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From: pk on
Hatunen wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:22:03 +0000, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
> <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups(a)NTLWorld.COM> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Would Unix used in the seventies and eighties qualify as a first
>>>>> cousin once removed? :-)
>>>>>
>>>> Shhh! The Linux users' calendar has no B.C. equivalent. Don't upset
>>>> them with notions of a time before the Creation. Everyone knows the
>>>> Truth. Torvalds created 4BSD, VMS, OS/360, and the other fossils just
>>>> to give computer scientists an illusion of history.
>>>>
>>> But isn't the Epoch January 1st, 1970?
>>>
>>Linux users also use the POSIX dating system, which purports to show
>>that the world existed before the Creation. Linux users know, however,
>>that there is no proven basis for counting the vibrations of caesium
>>atoms. 1970-01-01 00:00:10 TAI is an ecumenical sop to computer
>>scientists. The true underpinning to the clock is, as every Linux user
>>knows, hwclock --hctosys --localtime.
>
> How can you trust a UNIX or Linux system when entering the
> cammand cal 9 1752 give asuch a goofy answer?

Uh...that answer is correct. Maybe you need to read up something about
calendar systems.

From: Skitt on
Hatunen wrote:
> Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:

>> Linux users will tell you that your belief in the existence of a
>> "VMS" that evolved somehow, independently of the Creator, is not an
>> empirical one. Indeed, that you talk of belief at all should be
>> telling you that you are taking a religious position, not a rational
>> one. Computer science has yet to prove the existence of VMS, and
>> this fact is acknowledged by many computer scientists.
>
> As God is my witness, I swear that I have not only seen VAXen
> with VMS but even used them. Yo gotta believe me...

Me too, me too.
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reaching back a bit
From: Lew Pitcher on
On March 20, 2010 13:26, in comp.os.linux.misc, hatunen(a)cox.net wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:22:03 +0000, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
> <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups(a)NTLWorld.COM> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Would Unix used in the seventies and eighties qualify as a first
>>>>> cousin once removed? :-)
>>>>>
>>>> Shhh! The Linux users' calendar has no B.C. equivalent. Don't upset
>>>> them with notions of a time before the Creation. Everyone knows the
>>>> Truth. Torvalds created 4BSD, VMS, OS/360, and the other fossils just
>>>> to give computer scientists an illusion of history.
>>>>
>>> But isn't the Epoch January 1st, 1970?
>>>
>>Linux users also use the POSIX dating system, which purports to show
>>that the world existed before the Creation. Linux users know, however,
>>that there is no proven basis for counting the vibrations of caesium
>>atoms. 1970-01-01 00:00:10 TAI is an ecumenical sop to computer
>>scientists. The true underpinning to the clock is, as every Linux user
>>knows, hwclock --hctosys --localtime.
>
> How can you trust a UNIX or Linux system when entering the
> cammand cal 9 1752 give asuch a goofy answer?
>

Either you're being disingenuous or you've missed an important part of your
education.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar#Adoption_in_Europe

"Britain and the British Empire (including the eastern part of what is now
the United States) adopted the Gregorian calendar in 1752 by which time it
was necessary to correct by 11 days. Wednesday, 2 September 1752 was
followed by Thursday, 14 September 1752. Claims that rioters demanded "Give
us our eleven days" grew out of a misinterpretation of a painting by
William Hogarth. After 1753, the British tax year in Britain continued to
operate on the Julian calendar and began on 5 April, which was the "Old
Style" new tax year of 25 March. A 12th skipped Julian leap day in 1800
changed its start to 6 April. It was not changed when a 13th Julian leap
day was skipped in 1900, so the tax year in the United Kingdom still begins
on 6 April."


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From: Peter Duncanson (BrE) on
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:25:38 -0700, Hatunen <hatunen(a)cox.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:46:34 +0000, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
><J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups(a)NTLWorld.COM> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Shhh! The Linux users' calendar has no B.C. equivalent. Don't upset
>>>> them with notions of a time before the Creation. Everyone knows the
>>>> Truth. Torvalds created 4BSD, VMS, OS/360, and the other fossils
>>>> just to give computer scientists an illusion of history.
>>>>
>>> Sorry, don't believe you. Had Torvalds created VMS, he would have
>>> known what "fork" *really* means.
>>>
>>Linux users will tell you that your belief in the existence of a "VMS"
>>that evolved somehow, independently of the Creator, is not an empirical
>>one. Indeed, that you talk of belief at all should be telling you that
>>you are taking a religious position, not a rational one. Computer
>>science has yet to prove the existence of VMS, and this fact is
>>acknowledged by many computer scientists.
>
>As God is my witness, I swear that I have not only seen VAXen
>with VMS but even used them. Yo gotta believe me...

Me too.


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