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From: Evan Kirshenbaum on 22 Mar 2010 16:06 jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv(a)aol> writes: > jmfbahciv wrote: >> Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote: >>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:48:57 -0500, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv(a)aol> wrote: >>> >>>> Too bad you all didn't look at TOPS-20. >>>> >>> The closest I got to TOPS-20 was when I was involved in choosing a >>> computer for the university where I worked. A DECSYSTEM-20 was one >>> of the machines proposed. I liked the look of TOPS-20 but we >>> bought a different make. >>> >>> >> I mean really look at it. Take the jacket and tie off; assemble >> and generate CREF and GLOB listings. Maybe even learn how to debug >> with EDDT, DDT and address break. /BAH > > I forgot the nourishment. Have plenty of beer, pizza and dill > pickles in the fridge. Unless you're a purist...then delete > the pizza and insert Twinkies. It was Mountain Dew and Three Musketeers bars for me at Stanford. There are still things I miss about TOPS-20. -- Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |Those who study history are doomed 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |to watch others repeat it. Palo Alto, CA 94304 kirshenbaum(a)hpl.hp.com (650)857-7572 http://www.kirshenbaum.net/
From: R H Draney on 22 Mar 2010 16:10 Evan Kirshenbaum filted: > >jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv(a)aol> writes: > >> jmfbahciv wrote: >>> Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote: >>>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:48:57 -0500, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv(a)aol> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Too bad you all didn't look at TOPS-20. >>>>> >>>> The closest I got to TOPS-20 was when I was involved in choosing a >>>> computer for the university where I worked. A DECSYSTEM-20 was one >>>> of the machines proposed. I liked the look of TOPS-20 but we >>>> bought a different make. >>>> >>>> >>> I mean really look at it. Take the jacket and tie off; assemble >>> and generate CREF and GLOB listings. Maybe even learn how to debug >>> with EDDT, DDT and address break. /BAH >> >> I forgot the nourishment. Have plenty of beer, pizza and dill >> pickles in the fridge. Unless you're a purist...then delete >> the pizza and insert Twinkies. > >It was Mountain Dew and Three Musketeers bars for me at Stanford. >There are still things I miss about TOPS-20. What, no Pocky?...r -- "Oy! A cat made of lead cannot fly." - Mark Brader declaims a basic scientific principle
From: jmfbahciv on 23 Mar 2010 08:25 Evan Kirshenbaum wrote: > jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv(a)aol> writes: > >> jmfbahciv wrote: >>> Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote: >>>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:48:57 -0500, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv(a)aol> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Too bad you all didn't look at TOPS-20. >>>>> >>>> The closest I got to TOPS-20 was when I was involved in choosing a >>>> computer for the university where I worked. A DECSYSTEM-20 was one >>>> of the machines proposed. I liked the look of TOPS-20 but we >>>> bought a different make. >>>> >>>> >>> I mean really look at it. Take the jacket and tie off; assemble >>> and generate CREF and GLOB listings. Maybe even learn how to debug >>> with EDDT, DDT and address break. /BAH >> I forgot the nourishment. Have plenty of beer, pizza and dill >> pickles in the fridge. Unless you're a purist...then delete >> the pizza and insert Twinkies. > > It was Mountain Dew and Three Musketeers bars for me at Stanford. > There are still things I miss about TOPS-20. > Mountain Dew? Wow. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 23 Mar 2010 08:26 R H Draney wrote: > Evan Kirshenbaum filted: >> jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv(a)aol> writes: >> >>> jmfbahciv wrote: >>>> Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:48:57 -0500, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv(a)aol> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Too bad you all didn't look at TOPS-20. >>>>>> >>>>> The closest I got to TOPS-20 was when I was involved in choosing a >>>>> computer for the university where I worked. A DECSYSTEM-20 was one >>>>> of the machines proposed. I liked the look of TOPS-20 but we >>>>> bought a different make. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I mean really look at it. Take the jacket and tie off; assemble >>>> and generate CREF and GLOB listings. Maybe even learn how to debug >>>> with EDDT, DDT and address break. /BAH >>> I forgot the nourishment. Have plenty of beer, pizza and dill >>> pickles in the fridge. Unless you're a purist...then delete >>> the pizza and insert Twinkies. >> It was Mountain Dew and Three Musketeers bars for me at Stanford. >> There are still things I miss about TOPS-20. > > What, no Pocky?...r > > What is a Pocky (or don't I want to know?). /BAH
From: Jonathan de Boyne Pollard on 24 Mar 2010 01:09
> >> >> It was not used only in Europe, but (at least) in all the various >> European colonies. >> >>> The standard "cal" utility performed the switch between Julian and >>> Gregorian calendar in september 1752 (see cal 9 1752) which >>> corresponds to the date used in England. >>> >> in Britain and colonies >> >>> The Gregorian calendar (created by Pope Gregory III) was first used >>> in 1582 in many other countries. >>> >> Gregory XIII. Clavius et al. created it; the Pope wanted and decreed it. >> >> Not *many* in 1582. >> > You are correct that this is incredibly naive of the cal(1) software > tool. 25 countries and provinces have adopted the Gregorian calendar > on 18 different dates, ranging from the year 1582 to as late as 1949. > If only either you or M. Stockton had been reading the past week's discussion in the hereinmentioned newsgroups (under the hereinmentioned subject). You'd have learned that various versions of cal are far from naive about this, sporting as they do various relevant options, including the -R option in the NetBSD cal command and the -s option in the BSD ncal command. (-: |