From: gl4317 on
In article <ho5i94$qvb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Groleau+nntp(a)FreeShell.org wrote:

> Ten years ago the evil empire made two-way FTP transparent.
> You type the URI into the address bar of IE _or_ a directory window,
> and start dragging things in and out, including directories.
> The only indication that it's not a local disk is the protocol
> in the location field.


My impression was that IE's code runs the directory windows, since IE and
Windows are so heavily intertwined.

As such, since the basics of IE's code is at its core the web browser NCSA
Mosaic (take a look at the About Internet Explorer menu sometime - it
credits National Center for Supercomputer Applications' Mosaic as being
the origin) it was probably more by accident that FTP got built into
windows.

The one thing that I really hate about using FTP in IE or some other web
browsers is that with the built in memorty URL, you have to be sure to
clear the URL memory. Otherwise, it remembers your username and password
as it is built into the URL - at least with the way windows does it.

That's why I use BeyondCompare or FTPCommander on those occasions when I
must do FTP from a Windows machine.

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-Glennl
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From: Phillip Jones on
nospam wrote:
> In article<slrnhqb322.1voi.g.kreme(a)cerebus.local>, Lewis
> <g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
>> It's very simple, you don't like the Apple Finder's FTP support because
>> you are still living in the 1990's where uploading via ftp is relevant.
>
> it's very relevant today. many web hosting companies want people to
> upload their web sites via ftp. apple's iweb includes ftp writing for
> exactly this reason. bbedit also includes ftp, because people often
> connect to their web server (located someplace else) via ftp.
>
>> Many of us are not living in the 1990's and haven't uploaded to an ftp
>> server since the 1990's. For us, the Finder's ftp does everything we
>> need from an FTP client.
>
> great. not everyone finds it to be sufficient, otherwise there wouldn't
> be so many alternatives, all of which can write.
>
>> You need more, so you are forced to choose amongst the dozens and dozens
>> of possible solutions. For some reason, this makes you angry at Apple.
>
> i'm not angry. just commenting on what i think is a half assed job.

The best FTP Client for the money is Interarchy (formerly Anarchie). I
use it to upload files and do mirror downloads to and and from my Website.

--
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From: gl4317 on
In article <drache-353D22.11453821032010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> I was beginning to wonder whether ANYone but me uses Fetch 8-) My only
> use for FTP is for changing things on my web page, so I've been reading
> this thread with a "Huh?" feeling 8-)


It was mentioned several times early on in the thread. I'm one of the
ones that uses it still.

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From: MartinC on
Phillip Jones wrote:

> The best FTP Client for the money is Interarchy (formerly Anarchie). I
> use it to upload files and do mirror downloads to and and from my Website.

When Fetch went commercial, I switched to Cyberduck. It does everything that
the original (OS9) Fetch did, plus a *lot* more. Maybe the commercial
alternatives will have even more features, but when I first found Cyberduck
I never looked back.

http://www.cyberduck.ch

From: nospam on
In article <slrnhqc5ln.qhs.ianji33(a)zenatode.org.uk>, Ian Gregory
<ianji33(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

> For example, Mozilla Firefox (as I understand
> it) can download files from an FTP server but can't upload them.

firefox is a browser. people don't expect it to be bidirectional.