From: Eric on
In article <80k7cnFbn0U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody(a)goldmark.org> wrote:

> On 2010-03-20 7:30 AM, Lewis wrote:
>
> > I just use ncftp on the rare (very rare) occasions I need to ftp. For
> > updating websites, I use webDAV.
>
> I use rsync over ssh for updating websites (so, only those files that
> need updating get transferred). When I have to use FTP for such a thing
> I use lftp because it can read scripts and can do a rough simulation of
> rsync.

Apple's command line ftp works fine from shell with a Here document for
uploading web sites (I was too lazy to check commercial GUI ftp
products). I really must enhance that sometime.
From: Warren Oates on
In article <jollyroger-4DF2DF.19472120032010(a)news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

> He is. I viewed killed articles. Can't your news client do that?

Yeah, but _you_ make a point of kill-filing your lits of hate, and then
peeking under the bandages and complaining about what you find there. I
bet you read this.
--
Very old woody beets will never cook tender.
-- Fannie Farmer
From: Warren Oates on
In article <michelle-0F3D27.20405020032010(a)nothing.attdns.com>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> There's a slashed-pencil icon in the lower left corner of the Finder window
> (but only if the tool bar is showing) to show that it's read-only.

Not only that, but

man mount_ftp

will tell you that it's mounting a read-only filesystem. This may have
more to do with filesystems and mount(8) than security.
--
Very old woody beets will never cook tender.
-- Fannie Farmer
From: Ian Gregory on
On 2010-03-20, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> what if mounting appleshare servers was intentionally read-only? would
> that be ok?

There are distributed file systems, such as Network File System (NFS),
Server Message Block (SMB) and Apple Filing Protocol (AFP). AppleShare
(now discontinued) was basically a file server implementing the AFP
protocol, and it was of course read-write. I would expect the Finder to
be able to mount such file systems read-write.

FTP is not a distributed file system and although the protocol allows an
FTP client to both upload download files from an FTP server (and
indeed to transfer files between two remote FTP servers), uploading is
not always implemented. For example, Mozilla Firefox (as I understand
it) can download files from an FTP server but can't upload them.

Enabling the Finder to access files on an FTP server as if they were
local files is a kludge, only made tolerable by implementing it
read-only. If you want to upload files to an FTP server then you can do
so on any Mac OS X system using ftp on the command line or you can use a
third party GUI FTP client.

As far as I am concerned, FTP is obsolete due in part to its inherent
insecurity. It is fine for making files available for anonymous download
where there are no secrets being sent over the network in the clear, but
that can equally be done over HTTP. My hosting provider does not provide
FTP access to its servers for security reasons, I do all my uploading
and downloading using rsync over ssh.

Ian

--
Ian Gregory
http://www.zenatode.org.uk/
From: Wayne C. Morris on
In article <jwolf6589-E13409.21414820032010(a)nntp.charter.net>,
John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> > > What are your picks?
> >
> > I currently use Cyberduck. Before that I used RBrowser.
>
> rbrowser????

Search for it on versiontracker.com or macupdate.com.