From: nospam on
In article <sdfisher-866352.11165721032010(a)mara100-84.onlink.net>,
Steven Fisher <sdfisher(a)spamcop.net> wrote:

> Mac OS X didn't support FTP until 10.2.

mac os x has *always* had ftp support.
From: Jamie Kahn Genet on
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <gl4317-2003102324280001(a)69-30-9-146.pxd.easystreet.com>,
> gl4317(a)yahoo.com (gl4317(a)yahoo.com) wrote:
>
> > Is it really that much easier to do this with it built into the finder
> > than with a separate program?
>
> Well, with the Finder, you have the familiar Finder user interface, and do
> not have to run a separate program.
>
> If the Finder ever does allow uploading via FTP, I'd probably never use
> Fetch again.

That overlooks useful features like mirroring that Fetch and most other
third party FTP clients offer. But I grant you it would lesson the need
for such clients, if all you require is straight upload and download.
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From: Steven Fisher on
In article <210320101146243695%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <sdfisher-866352.11165721032010(a)mara100-84.onlink.net>,
> Steven Fisher <sdfisher(a)spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> > Mac OS X didn't support FTP until 10.2.
>
> mac os x has *always* had ftp support.

In a user-hostile shell command? Sure.

But not in the Finder. That's new 10.2.


Steve
From: Warren Oates on
In article <210320101146243695%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> mac os x has *always* had ftp support.

Not for mounting a remote ftp directory as a filesystem.

man mount_ftp

If you try to remount the filesystem rw, you'll likely get an error from
the remote host anyway.
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From: Jolly Roger on
In article <ho5och$bt0$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Phillip Jones <pjones1(a)kimbanet.com> wrote:

> nospam wrote:
> > In article<slrnhqb322.1voi.g.kreme(a)cerebus.local>, Lewis
> > <g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >
> >> It's very simple, you don't like the Apple Finder's FTP support because
> >> you are still living in the 1990's where uploading via ftp is relevant.
> >
> > it's very relevant today. many web hosting companies want people to
> > upload their web sites via ftp. apple's iweb includes ftp writing for
> > exactly this reason. bbedit also includes ftp, because people often
> > connect to their web server (located someplace else) via ftp.
> >
> >> Many of us are not living in the 1990's and haven't uploaded to an ftp
> >> server since the 1990's. For us, the Finder's ftp does everything we
> >> need from an FTP client.
> >
> > great. not everyone finds it to be sufficient, otherwise there wouldn't
> > be so many alternatives, all of which can write.
> >
> >> You need more, so you are forced to choose amongst the dozens and dozens
> >> of possible solutions. For some reason, this makes you angry at Apple.
> >
> > i'm not angry. just commenting on what i think is a half assed job.
>
> The best FTP Client for the money is Interarchy (formerly Anarchie). I
> use it to upload files and do mirror downloads to and and from my Website.

I disagree.

Fetch offers more bang for your buck with less headaches. Interarchy
doesn't have robust proxy support, for instance.

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