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From: eric gisse on 26 Dec 2009 01:24 George Hammond wrote: [...] > What I now realize is that some of these drugs in very > minute quantities can affect the polymerization and > depolymerization of the microtubules in the neurons of the > brain. Tthank Christ they apparently sort of act like > anesthetics and the action is totally reversible. But I'll > bet there are drugs out there that aren't reversible. Now, > 40 years later, I realized how dangerous all that bullshit > was and how lucky we were to have survived it. I'm sure your the multiple times you have been institutionalized over the years is unrelated to your drug use! [...]
From: George Hammond on 26 Dec 2009 01:45 On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:46:47 -0800 (PST), Don Stockbauer <don.stockbauer(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >God and the Universe are identical concepts. > > [Hammond] No they are not because God is a three letter word and Universe is an 8 letter word so obviously they are not identical. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
From: George Hammond on 26 Dec 2009 01:54 X-No-Archive: Yes On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:10:27 +1100, "Inertial" <relatively(a)rest.com> wrote: > >Shame you lost your sanity along the way > Sorry you were born insane. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
From: Zinnic on 26 Dec 2009 02:49 On Dec 25, 11:57 pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: > On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 18:49:45 -0800 (PST), > > "bigflet...(a)gmail.com" <bigflet...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >To GH...you are representative of many who have come befor you, by > >trying to diuscect tissue to find life. I think the whole of Zen was > >written for people like you....Im not knocking you btw. I have no > >doubt in your sincerity. > > >BOfL > > [Hammond] > Well Boffle, I wish we could spend more time talking about > competence rather than sincerity. Sincerity is cheap, > competences expensive. > If I remember correctly you are either a PhD student in > theoretical physics or post doc or something. Correct me if > I am wrong. > Assuming you are a physics postdoc that probably means > that you don't know a heck of a lot about biology. As an MS > in physics the same goes for me. But as any physicist knows > biology is mainly postage stamp collecting compared to > mathematical physics. > Having said that, have you ever had occasion to actually > go and look at how muscles contract? Do you realize there > are little things called "motor molecules" that actually > have two legs and literally "walk along" these microtubules > were talking about. And in the case of muscles they work in > unison like galley slaves rowing one microtubule pasts > another causing the entire muscle cell to contract. For > Christ sakes Boffle, who would have imagined that such a > thing was possible. These molecules by the way have a > molecular weight in the hundreds of thousands of Daltons! > They are apparently proteins that can "walk" on two legs by > changing their conformation! > And another thing Boffle, as you know there has been an > explosion in scientific manpower in the past 40 years, we > must have 10 times the number of scientists now that we had > 40 years ago. This means that when something new is detected > there is an army of scientific manpower ready to leap on it > with both feet. > The latest thing is, that they have discovered that these > microtubules are hollow and the dimers in the walls switch > between two different confirmations at microwave frequencies > (Frohlich's frequency). They now believe that this causes > something called "superradiance" in the interior of the > microtubule and optical signals can be transmitted without > any loss over large distances. By the way you'll never > guess who was the first one to discover and publish a theory > of "superradiace" in water: physicist Robert H. Dicke > himself then at Princeton in 1954! > Anyway, Stuart Hameroff met with Sir Roger Penrose in > 1994 and Penrose became convinced along with Hameroff that > these microtubules are switching dimer computers optically > interconnected by massless bosons (e.g. optical photons). > Meanwhile another physics genius, Prof. Frank Tipler at > Tulane Published a celebrated book in1994 in which he > pointed out that a large enough computer could actually > resurrect a person to eternal life in virtual reality > (cyberspace) inside the computer. Of course he pointed out > that it would take an astronomically large computer to do > so. > But meanwhile, Penrose and Hameroff have already > discovered that there is a gigantic microtubule computer > already in the brain and that it has the advantage of having > the whole cytoskeleton of the actual real human body built > right into it, so that the size of the necessary computer > is reduced by a double exponential sized factor! > What I'm telling you as one physicist to another is that > the scientific possibility of an actual literal life after > death in "virtual reality" inside the microtubule computer > is a DISTINCT scientific possibility! > How about a competent comment about that rather than > merely a sincere comment? George, you guys are being "dazzled" by becoming aware of how is 'old- hat' biological science can be recruited into supporting metaphysical speculation. The walking (ratcheting) action of muscle proteins has long been extant in biology text books, whilst conformational changes and mutual covalent modifications of interacting proteins in microtubules and other structures has been established for years. As a biochemist I am delighted that physicist and mystics now marvel at the 'miracles' of life revealed by research in chemistry and biology but find it ridiculous that physicists/mystics without biological expertise now feel competent to extend demonstrated biological mechanisms into unexplored quantum areas. It is only a question of time before nuerosciences demonstrate that mental function is explicable in terms of non-quantum chemistry and physiology. Zinnic
From: George Hammond on 26 Dec 2009 04:46
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 23:49:45 -0800 (PST), Zinnic <zeenric2(a)gate.net> wrote: >On Dec 25, 11:57�pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 18:49:45 -0800 (PST), >> >> "bigflet...(a)gmail.com" <bigflet...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >To GH...you are representative of many who have come befor you, by >> >trying to diuscect tissue to find life. I think the whole of Zen was >> >written for people like you....Im not knocking you btw. I have no >> >doubt in your sincerity. >> >> >BOfL >> >> [Hammond] >> � Well Boffle, I wish we could spend more time talking about >> competence rather than sincerity. � Sincerity is cheap, >> competences expensive. >> � If I remember correctly you are either a PhD student in >> theoretical physics or post doc or something. �Correct me if >> I am wrong. >> � Assuming you are a physics postdoc that probably means >> that you don't know a heck of a lot about biology. �As an MS >> in physics the same goes for me. �But as any physicist knows >> biology is mainly postage stamp collecting compared to >> mathematical physics. >> � �Having said that, �have you ever had occasion to actually >> go and look at how muscles contract? �Do you realize there >> are little things called "motor molecules" that actually >> have two legs and �literally "walk along" these microtubules >> were talking about. �And in the case of muscles they work in >> unison like galley slaves rowing one microtubule pasts >> another causing the entire muscle cell to contract. �For >> Christ sakes Boffle, who would have imagined that such a >> thing was possible. �These molecules by the way have a >> molecular weight in the hundreds of thousands of Daltons! >> They are apparently proteins that can "walk" on two legs by >> changing their conformation! >> � �And another thing Boffle, as you know there has been an >> explosion in scientific manpower in the past 40 years, we >> must have 10 times the number of scientists now that we had >> 40 years ago. This means that when something new is detected >> there is an army of scientific manpower ready to leap on it >> with both feet. >> � �The latest thing is, that they have discovered that these >> microtubules are hollow and the dimers in the walls switch >> between two different confirmations at microwave frequencies >> (Frohlich's frequency). �They now believe that this causes >> something called "superradiance" in the interior of the >> microtubule and optical signals can be transmitted without >> any loss over large distances. �By the way you'll never >> guess who was the first one to discover and publish a theory >> of "superradiace" in water: physicist Robert H. Dicke >> himself then at Princeton in 1954! >> � �Anyway, Stuart Hameroff met with �Sir Roger Penrose in >> 1994 and Penrose became convinced along with Hameroff that >> these microtubules are switching �dimer computers optically >> interconnected by massless bosons (e.g. optical photons). >> � �Meanwhile another physics genius, Prof. Frank Tipler at >> Tulane Published a celebrated book in1994 in which he >> pointed out that a large enough computer could actually >> resurrect a person to eternal life in virtual reality >> (cyberspace) inside the computer. �Of course he pointed out >> that it would take an astronomically large computer to do >> so. >> � �But meanwhile, Penrose and Hameroff have already >> discovered that there is a gigantic microtubule computer >> already in the brain and that it has the advantage of having >> the whole cytoskeleton of the actual real human body built >> right into �it, so that the size of the necessary computer >> is reduced by a double exponential sized factor! >> � �What I'm telling you as one physicist to another is that >> the scientific possibility of an actual literal life after >> death in "virtual reality" inside the microtubule computer >> is a DISTINCT scientific possibility! >> � �How about a competent comment about that rather than >> merely a sincere comment? > >George, you guys are being "dazzled" by becoming aware of how is 'old- >hat' biological science can be recruited into supporting metaphysical >speculation. The walking (ratcheting) action of muscle proteins has >long been extant in biology text books, whilst conformational changes >and mutual covalent modifications of interacting proteins in >microtubules and other structures has been established for years. >As a biochemist I am delighted that physicist and mystics now marvel >at the 'miracles' of life revealed by research in chemistry and >biology but find it ridiculous that physicists/mystics without >biological expertise now feel competent to extend demonstrated >biological mechanisms into unexplored quantum areas. > > > [Hammond] I've got news for you, you overprivileged stuffshirt. Turns out that while we physicists were out on the front lines killing ourselves looking for the fronteirs of scientific knowledge, you bunch of horses asses were sitting in laboratories getting overpaid playing with your "scientific toys" and failing to recognize them for what they are. Too busy with your "highly paid titillating hobby" driving around in $40,000 SUVs and living in million-dollar homes to recognize the true scientific import of your "scientific playthings". You, Darwin, and every line professional biologist who's ever come down the pike... including especially jackasses like Richard Dawkins. And I'd throw in biochemists for good measure. Unfortunately for you true scientist like Froehlich, Hameroff and others have appeared on the scene and caught you red-handed idly smug and derelict in your responsibilities. Penrose was the one I caught you all with your pants down. And believe me the entire physics department is now breathing down your necks. And were not about to listen to anymore stuffshirt naysaying from line professional blockheads like you. > > > >It is only a question of time before nuerosciences demonstrate that >mental function is explicable in terms of non-quantum chemistry and >physiology. >Zinnic > > [Hammond] That's a bunch of impudent backtalk. Frohlich's frequency is a quantum phenomenon. Tubulin switching speeds are in the microwave to optical region which is quantum territory. One of the world's most famous physicists Robert H. Dicke of Princeton himself discovered superradiance in water, in this case the water inside of microtubules. The world has had enough of smug overpaid naysayers like you in biology, and guys like Frohlich, Dicke, Penrose and Hameroff have had enough of bigshot biologists like Darwin and Dawkins walking around shooting their mouths off while the entire world balances on the edge of catastrophe. Guys like you aren't going to stand in the way much longer. Dawkins is walking around publishing books like the _ God Delusion_ and making a fortune doing it while Physics has actually succeeded in publishing the world's first rigorous scientific proof of the existence of God and can't even get it published in a leading journal. And now Physics is hot on the trail of life after death with the discovery of a plausible scientific mechanism, for Christ sakes. No we've heard enough smug backtalk from over paid line professional stuff shirts like you. The party's over for you, just like it's over for Wall Street, and just like it's over for the Republican Party... guess what, a dedicated and long suffering humanity is about to start cleaning house and you'll be one of the first people they'll be taking a hard look at unless I miss my guess. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ======================================= |