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From: Tim Wescott on 25 Jun 2010 11:45 On 06/25/2010 08:42 AM, Nial Stewart wrote: >> I should have included a smiley, for I was attempting >> to suggest that any 'component shortage' has got to >> be a product of imagination rather than real. > > > In 15 years using Altera devices I've never had any problems obtaining them. > > I've been kitting up for a prototype build and my FAE has had to pull > a lot of strings to get me 4 Stratix's that were fairly freely available > when the project started 6 months ago. It'll be October before I see any > more. > > I also have an Analog Devices ADC designed in which was available from > Digikey and a couple of other distributors four months ago but I've > had to get Analog customer services to trawl their system to get me > 4 for debug. Again it's November before these will be available. > > The Altera FAE said that 15 smaller fabs closed last year so all the > big ones are working at more than capacity(?). Altera use TSMC which is > fully booked. They announced the Cyclone IV family in October but > so far only one device is out, the rest were due pretty quickly after > that but are now scheduled for the Autumn (because they can't build > them). > > Shortages are real IMHO. Ah, so we're at _that_ point in the EE boom-bust cycle! So when is there going to be a huge glut of chips on the market, I wonder? -- Tim Wescott Control system and signal processing consulting www.wescottdesign.com
From: Winston on 25 Jun 2010 14:45 On 6/25/2010 8:42 AM, Nial Stewart wrote: >> I should have included a smiley, for I was attempting >> to suggest that any 'component shortage' has got to >> be a product of imagination rather than real. > (...) > Shortages are real IMHO. OP Quote> Please be advised that there is a nation-wide shortage of OP Quote> Electronic Ballasts due to a world-wide electronic component OP Quote> shortage including capacitors and integrated circuits. Without revealing anything proprietary, can you help me understand the advantages of these high performance FPGAs in electronic ballast design? I'm also struggling to imagine a role for the ADC. Could you point out the location of these parts in the diagram for me please? http://www.eleccircuit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/80w-flourescent-electronic-ballast-by-phe13005.gif Economic Boom: "Everybody's using our product! You'll be on allocation and pay premium prices!" Economic Bust: "We shut down all our foundries! You'll be on allocation and pay premium prices!" Economic Uncertainty: A few folks are using our product! You'll be on allocation and pay premium prices!" Day of the Week: Ends in the letter 'y'! You'll be on allocation and pay premium prices!" Thanks! --Winston
From: Richard Henry on 25 Jun 2010 14:57 On Jun 24, 7:49 am, Joerg <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > Avoid parts from manufacturers that are known to prefer key > account. Do you have a list to share?
From: Joerg on 25 Jun 2010 15:17 Tim Wescott wrote: > On 06/25/2010 08:42 AM, Nial Stewart wrote: >>> I should have included a smiley, for I was attempting >>> to suggest that any 'component shortage' has got to >>> be a product of imagination rather than real. >> >> >> In 15 years using Altera devices I've never had any problems obtaining >> them. >> >> I've been kitting up for a prototype build and my FAE has had to pull >> a lot of strings to get me 4 Stratix's that were fairly freely available >> when the project started 6 months ago. It'll be October before I see any >> more. >> >> I also have an Analog Devices ADC designed in which was available from >> Digikey and a couple of other distributors four months ago but I've >> had to get Analog customer services to trawl their system to get me >> 4 for debug. Again it's November before these will be available. >> >> The Altera FAE said that 15 smaller fabs closed last year so all the >> big ones are working at more than capacity(?). Altera use TSMC which is >> fully booked. They announced the Cyclone IV family in October but >> so far only one device is out, the rest were due pretty quickly after >> that but are now scheduled for the Autumn (because they can't build >> them). >> >> Shortages are real IMHO. > > Ah, so we're at _that_ point in the EE boom-bust cycle! > > So when is there going to be a huge glut of chips on the market, I wonder? > When all the purchasing agents who have double-ordered start cancelling orders and all the companies who have hoarded parts slow down :-) Seriously, try to get stuff like dual FETs in SO8 that can do 100V+. Haven't looked this month but last month those were mostly non-stock. Then there were situations where I designed in a part that had tons of stock only to discover one fine Monday morning that it had dropped to zilch everywhere. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Joerg on 25 Jun 2010 15:24
Richard Henry wrote: > On Jun 24, 7:49 am, Joerg <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> Avoid parts from manufacturers that are known to prefer key >> account. > > Do you have a list to share? You've got mail :-) -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM. |