Corporate creep in Linux? (mini-rantette)
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From: notbob on 16 Sep 2009 10:19 On 2009-09-16, Mike Jones <Not(a)Arizona.Bay> wrote: > Hmmm. I like this idea. The advantage of slack is you can do it. YOU CAN DO IT! Leave Pat to the difficult stuff I have no clue about. I'm sure he has enough on his plate as it is. nb
From: Sylvain Robitaille on 16 Sep 2009 10:27 Mike Jones wrote: > ... > "Full", "Menu", "Light" The "Light" being something like a stripped > down OS with JWM or IceWM stuck on top of a basic but functional > system that just had enough bits in it, approporiately configured, to > provide a fast dependable OS for basic functions like Abiword word > processing, Dillo2 surfing, Sylpheed email, Pan usenet, Bashburn for > disk burning, and so on. Your "light" option seems to be largely based on software that doesn't get installed in the distribution's "full" option. Ironic, that. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille syl(a)encs.concordia.ca Systems analyst / AITS Concordia University Faculty of Engineering and Computer Science Montreal, Quebec, Canada ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: wexfordpress on 16 Sep 2009 10:56 On Sep 12, 3:21 pm, Peter Chant <REMpete...(a)petezilla.co.uk> wrote: > wexfordpress wrote: > > > 11. Install Vector Linux on another partition to get Inkscape 46. > > Still don't have Inkscape 47. > > (etc.) > > From slackbuilds, sbopk or somewhere: > > bash-3.1$ inkscape --version > Inkscape 0.47pre0 r21549 (Sep 7 2009) > > Any significant difference in the versions? > > Pete > > --http://www.petezilla.co.uk Sbopk? Is that a misprint or a hidden capability? The problem with all slackbuilds or whatever for Inkscape lie in the library requirements. You have to get the right library of the right version to match all the other libraries. I wasted some days fiddling with this process with no success at all. My final solution was to install Xubuntu (Ubuntu with XFCE) on a spare partititon, fight my way through all the apt-gets for missing components, download a .deb version of a compiled nightly snapshot of Inkscape, do some more apt-gets as required, and finally view Inkscape 47 in all its glory. Since no sensible person spends much time in a Debian derivative, I moved inkscape-devel to my Slack 13 partition, and went through a repetitive cycle of identifying missing libraries by calling the program and reading the latest error message. I copied the needed libraries from the Xubuntu partition. Now I still get error and warning messages but the program seems to work. Inkscape 47 is very different from Inkscape 46. I am just beginning to learn its capabilities and quirks. When 47 becomes stable (it is up to rc3 now) there will be an opportunity to incorporate it into Slackware and expect it to be useful for some time to come. If someone on list has actually used another way to install Inkscape on Slack successfully please share the details. John Culleton
From: Keith Keller on 16 Sep 2009 13:54 On 2009-09-16, Mike Jones <Not(a)Arizona.Bay> wrote: > > The solution to this is to (slightly) extend whats available in a > standard Slackware install, to include alternative setups to the ever > expanding defaults. This is already in operation as an idea, what with > alternative desktops like KDE or Xfce etc., but IMO it needs to be > extended to include alternatives to the bloaty stuff, so that a standard > Slacker (and noobz) can simply chose an installation set that IS a > lightweight OS, straight off the install DVD. Didn't people already mention that blackbox is an installation option? If that's not a nonbloaty WM option I don't know what is. (And FWIW I think twm is still part of the Xorg packages.) > Hmmm. I like this idea. Are you going to implement it? ISTM you need two things: a) a set of tags to tell the installer what to install, and b) the packages you mentioned but that are not included with Slackware, as Sylvain mentioned. Not trivial, but certainly not incredibly difficult either. --keith -- kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us (try just my userid to email me) AOLSFAQ=http://www.therockgarden.ca/aolsfaq.txt see X- headers for PGP signature information
From: notbob on 16 Sep 2009 14:14
On 2009-09-16, Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote: > If that's not a nonbloaty WM option I don't know what is. No kidding. I dumped kde in favor of fluxbox and love it. Got back the 20% speed hit suffered from kde bloat, yet still can call up a k-app if need be. OTOH, since they tossed quanta, can't think of any worth bothering with. Probably dump the whole kde fiasco, next rev. nb |