Corporate creep in Linux? (mini-rantette)
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From: Dan C on 12 Sep 2009 16:57 On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:27:00 +0200, Helmut Hullen wrote: > Hallo, Peter, > > Du meintest am 12.09.09: > >>> Most times "MAKEDEV" does the job, not me. > >> I think that used to live in /dev - its not there now unless udev hides >> it. > > Put it into "/sbin" (if it's not already there). > > If you use "udev" then this program rebuilds "/dev". It uses "/lib/udev/ > devices" and all devices it has found (which is less than all devices > which exist in the machine). There is no place for programs like > "MAKEDEV". > > I don't like "udev" ... Yeah, well you don't know what a sig delimiter is either, so your opinion doesn't count for much. -- "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me". "Bother!" said Pooh, as he garotted another passing Liberal. Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
From: Mike Jones on 12 Sep 2009 17:24 Responding to notbob: > On 2009-09-12, goarilla <kevin.paulus(a)skynet.remove-this.be> wrote: >> >> i apologise i just went through the xmwconfig source code and it seems >> you are right, root does put symlinks in /usr/X11/xinit for system wide >> 'basic' configuration > > Hey, no apologies necessary. I'm the forever newb. I'm at that age > where I find the solution one day and have to find it again next rev. > Fortunately, after long enough I've become comfortable with slack and > ofter can deduce the problem by intuition, like where the bathroom is on > a cold Winter's night during a pwr failure. ;) > > nb Thats a pretty good description of the phemonena. I've started dumping my notes into a single HTHDI (How The Hell Did I...?) dir. This really helps when I need to prod the old sponge on something I've not looked at for a while. Another thing I've done is write a tidyup script that scours certain directory structures for anything with .note .stuff etc. files (I tend to tag notes with appropriate extensions) and dump them all in the target tidyup dir. That way I know where to start looking when I "need a jolt from my electrode". ;) -- *===( http://www.400monkeys.com/God/ *===( http://principiadiscordia.com/ *===( http://www.slackware.com/
From: danube on 12 Sep 2009 17:43 On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:27:00 +0200, Helmut Hullen wrote: > Hallo, Peter, > > Du meintest am 12.09.09: > >>> Most times "MAKEDEV" does the job, not me. > >> I think that used to live in /dev - its not there now unless udev hides >> it. > > Put it into "/sbin" (if it's not already there). > > If you use "udev" then this program rebuilds "/dev". It uses "/lib/udev/ > devices" and all devices it has found (which is less than all devices > which exist in the machine). There is no place for programs like > "MAKEDEV". > > I don't like "udev" ... > > Viele Gruesse > Helmut > > "Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me". I disabled rc.udev, rc.hald and rc.messagebus in SL64, had to load the psaux module for the mouse and use Openbox as a WM. All seems to work well, and fast. Sound was configured with alsaconfig. The network card module had to be loaded also, all with modprobe. JB
From: Peter Chant on 12 Sep 2009 19:10 Helmut Hullen wrote: > Put it into "/sbin" (if it's not already there). locate shows nothing but a man page for it, and some video 4 linux documentation in the kernel source. My point is that mknod / MAKEDEV are serious voodoo stuff that ordinary users/admins should not NEED to worry about, surely? I can understand use of it if you are porting to a new architecture or are doing some serious playing with embedded / custom hardware. It is a whole set of smoke and mirrors that you should not need to play with in normal use IMHO. > > If you use "udev" then this program rebuilds "/dev". It uses "/lib/udev/ > devices" and all devices it has found (which is less than all devices > which exist in the machine). There is no place for programs like > "MAKEDEV". > > I don't like "udev" ... > > Viele Gruesse > Helmut > > "Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me". -- http://www.petezilla.co.uk
From: notbob on 12 Sep 2009 19:17
On 2009-09-12, Mike Jones <Not(a)Arizona.Bay> wrote: > I've started dumping my notes into a single HTHDI (How The Hell Did > I...?) dir. I need to start doing that. One directory for all the hints, tips, configs, etc. I usually dump my primary dirs like /etc, /home, etc on a flash drive. It would be so much easier to put config notes for the more difficult stuff like emacs, camera, scanner, printer setup in one dir to save. I like the name. ;) nb |