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From: Dirk Van de moortel on 17 Dec 2008 11:46 bjones <nipit(a)4sure.com> aka Brian D. Jones, "CAD designer with expertise in Special Relativity" and former reviewer of http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/info.htm aka kk, aka Kurt Kingston, aka Dark Energy, aka Forumodus of Halicarnassus, aka TymBuk2, aka Cadwgan Gedrych, aka 2ndPostulateDude, aka SRdude, aka Edward Travis, aka Ron Aikas, aka Roy Royce, aka John Reid, aka Martin Miller aka Wings of Truth aka delta-T wrote in message 49480be9.26469109(a)us.Usenet-News.net > On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Tom Roberts wrote: > >> bjones wrote: >>> 1. Use synchronous clocks to measure light's one-way speed. >> >> First you need to define what you mean by "synchronous". >> In particular, you must specify precisely how to set two >> identical clocks separated by some distance so they are >> "synchronous". >> >> As I have pointed out many times, this is not going to >> be very useful, because the accuracy of atomic clocks >> is insufficient to your purpose. > > This is much better than the wimping-out of PD and the > no-showing of Dr. Dirk. At least you do not ignore or > deny the fact that (absolutely) synchronous clocks would > overturn SR theory, and that was all that I was trying > to get across. [snip usual Jones-rant] >> >>> 2. Perform the Michelson-Morley experiment with an unshrunken >>> ruler. >> >> That experiment uses no ruler at all. >> > Objection overruled. Irrelevant. That was not an objection. It was a warning to illustrate your utter ignorance. >> >>> 3. Perform the Kennedy-Thorndike experiment with an unslowed >>> clock. >> >> That experiment uses no clock at all. >> > Objection overruled. Irrelevant. That was not an objection either. It was another warning to illustrate how utterly ignorant you are. >> >>> 4. Try to apply Einstein's "synchronization" definition to more >>> than one frame.[...] >> >> That definition cannot possibly be applied to clocks at rest in >> different frames. >> > Einstein disagrees with you - > "Also the definition of simultaneity can be given relative > to the train in exactly the same way as with respect to the > embankment." http://www.bartleby.com/173/9.html "Einstein disagrees with you ": http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/EinsteinDisagrees.html which, for a change, shows how utterly STUPID you are ;-) Closing entry of the year, I guess? Congrats! Dirk Vdm
From: bjones on 17 Dec 2008 14:04 On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:46:19 +0100, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel(a)nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote: You are the fumbling one, Dr. Dirk, because you cannot show c invariance even on paper, much less experimentally. Frame A [0]---------------x----------------[x/c] S~~> [0]---------------x----------------[x/c] Frame B S is the light source (attached to Frm A) Frm B moves wrt A and S. Show both frames getting c for light's one-way speed. Einstein says it must be so. Jones says it cannot happen. Dr. Dirk will fumble again. /bjones/
From: Strich.9 on 17 Dec 2008 14:57 On Dec 6, 4:04 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It's worth noting that Spaceman has decided to snap out of it and has > turned his attention to other pointless pursuits. > NoEinstein has petered off to a few random posts on the weekend, no > longer able to muster the lung power to puff himself up anymore. > Strich9 and his several aliases seemed to have finally stopped > chattering. > Brian Jones gave a brief gasp and announced he was quitting. > ahahahanson is tired of hyenish cackling. > Louis Savain no longer has the strength to tell people to pack it for > months. > Gerald O'Barr has finally shut up. > Lester Zick has decided not to dress up anymore. > Andre Michaud is sniffing less and less, and can still be heard over > Marcel Luttgens. > And there are a few others that seem to have faded away. > > "Henri Wilson" and Ken Seto still persist in their attention-mongering > ways, and so their physical health must be fine even if their mental > health has deteriorated. > > Time to till the field and see what weeds pop up in the spring! > > PD Two lines of advice: Never wake a sleeping dragon... Never heckle a vacationing enemy... As for your tilling the field of relativity, take my other advice... nothing will grow out of it. Like all wrong theories, it is a dead end...
From: PD on 17 Dec 2008 16:35 On Dec 17, 1:57 pm, "Strich.9" <strich.9...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 6, 4:04 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > It's worth noting that Spaceman has decided to snap out of it and has > > turned his attention to other pointless pursuits. > > NoEinstein has petered off to a few random posts on the weekend, no > > longer able to muster the lung power to puff himself up anymore. > > Strich9 and his several aliases seemed to have finally stopped > > chattering. > > Brian Jones gave a brief gasp and announced he was quitting. > > ahahahanson is tired of hyenish cackling. > > Louis Savain no longer has the strength to tell people to pack it for > > months. > > Gerald O'Barr has finally shut up. > > Lester Zick has decided not to dress up anymore. > > Andre Michaud is sniffing less and less, and can still be heard over > > Marcel Luttgens. > > And there are a few others that seem to have faded away. > > > "Henri Wilson" and Ken Seto still persist in their attention-mongering > > ways, and so their physical health must be fine even if their mental > > health has deteriorated. > > > Time to till the field and see what weeds pop up in the spring! > > > PD > > Two lines of advice: > > Never wake a sleeping dragon... > > Never heckle a vacationing enemy... > > As for your tilling the field of relativity, take my other advice... > nothing will grow out of it. Like all wrong theories, it is a dead > end...
From: PD on 17 Dec 2008 18:21
On Dec 17, 1:57 pm, "Strich.9" <strich.9...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 6, 4:04 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > It's worth noting that Spaceman has decided to snap out of it and has > > turned his attention to other pointless pursuits. > > NoEinstein has petered off to a few random posts on the weekend, no > > longer able to muster the lung power to puff himself up anymore. > > Strich9 and his several aliases seemed to have finally stopped > > chattering. > > Brian Jones gave a brief gasp and announced he was quitting. > > ahahahanson is tired of hyenish cackling. > > Louis Savain no longer has the strength to tell people to pack it for > > months. > > Gerald O'Barr has finally shut up. > > Lester Zick has decided not to dress up anymore. > > Andre Michaud is sniffing less and less, and can still be heard over > > Marcel Luttgens. > > And there are a few others that seem to have faded away. > > > "Henri Wilson" and Ken Seto still persist in their attention-mongering > > ways, and so their physical health must be fine even if their mental > > health has deteriorated. > > > Time to till the field and see what weeds pop up in the spring! > > > PD > > Two lines of advice: > > Never wake a sleeping dragon... > > Never heckle a vacationing enemy... oooh.... an *enemy*. Carrying a plastic sword and knee pads, no less. Impressive! > > As for your tilling the field of relativity, take my other advice... > nothing will grow out of it. Like all wrong theories, it is a dead > end... |