From: T i m on
Hi all,

A mate has just called to ask if I know of a way to put DVDss on an
iPod. It's for their young son for when they go on holiday.

They have both PC and Mac and happy to use whichever would do the job
the easiest.

So, is it just a matter of dragging the DVD onto iTunes, does that
know to convert it mp4 or whatever the right format is please?

If it can't be done automagically I think they would be happy to pay a
small amount for a package that would (prefer free of course). Did I
read here about something called Handbrake having an 'Output to iPod'
setting? Would that be the badger to use?

I ask because I have no real experience with video or iPods (outside
my Nano) but would like to help him if I can.

Cheers, T i m



From: Jim on
T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:

> If it can't be done automagically I think they would be happy to pay a
> small amount for a package that would (prefer free of course). Did I
> read here about something called Handbrake having an 'Output to iPod'
> setting? Would that be the badger to use?

Handbrake can certainly produce files for iPod classics (it's the 'iPod'
setting) but your problem will be getting Handbrake to see the DVD
without turning up its nose at the DRM.

In order to get around that you need to do one of two things: the first
is to buy RipIt (http://thelittleappfactory.com/ripit/ $19.95) which
will produce a non-DRM'd disk image which you can then use with
Handbrake. (there are also other products but I use and like RipIt a
lot)

The other method (free) is 'Fairmount'
(http://www.metakine.com/products/fairmount/) which requires VLC to be
installed. This will produce a sort of virtual disk image of the DVD,
which you then point Handbrake at.

I've used both methods, and both work quite well. The second method
_can_ take a long time, depending on the DVD and the amount and type of
DRM jiggerypokery on it.

Jim
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From: T i m on
On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 10:37:27 +0100, jim(a)magrathea.plus.com (Jim) wrote:

>T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> If it can't be done automagically I think they would be happy to pay a
>> small amount for a package that would (prefer free of course). Did I
>> read here about something called Handbrake having an 'Output to iPod'
>> setting? Would that be the badger to use?
>
>Handbrake can certainly produce files for iPod classics (it's the 'iPod'
>setting) but your problem will be getting Handbrake to see the DVD
>without turning up its nose at the DRM.
>
>In order to get around that you need to do one of two things: the first
>is to buy RipIt (http://thelittleappfactory.com/ripit/ $19.95) which
>will produce a non-DRM'd disk image which you can then use with
>Handbrake. (there are also other products but I use and like RipIt a
>lot)
>
>The other method (free) is 'Fairmount'
>(http://www.metakine.com/products/fairmount/) which requires VLC to be
>installed. This will produce a sort of virtual disk image of the DVD,
>which you then point Handbrake at.
>
>I've used both methods, and both work quite well. The second method
>_can_ take a long time, depending on the DVD and the amount and type of
>DRM jiggerypokery on it.
>
<printed> Thanks Jim, I'm probably going to pop round there later
(he's got some old / spare power tools he said our daughter can have)
so I'll take this with me and try and go through it with him.

He's one of the ones I've set up his desktop PC to dual boot into
Ubuntu and he said he and the kids are using that more and more now.
That could also be a possibility re the ripping / compressing solution
but then doesn't have the actual iTunes bit (and I know you can get
Linux to do that with other packages). Do I take it that when you have
done the business with the above you still would typically use iTunes
to do the synching?

Cheers, T i m






From: Jim on
T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:

> <printed> Thanks Jim, I'm probably going to pop round there later
> (he's got some old / spare power tools he said our daughter can have)
> so I'll take this with me and try and go through it with him.
>
> He's one of the ones I've set up his desktop PC to dual boot into
> Ubuntu and he said he and the kids are using that more and more now.
> That could also be a possibility re the ripping / compressing solution
> but then doesn't have the actual iTunes bit (and I know you can get
> Linux to do that with other packages). Do I take it that when you have
> done the business with the above you still would typically use iTunes
> to do the synching?

I should point out that although Handbrake and VLC are multiplatform,
RipIt is certainly Mac only, as is almost certainly Fairmount.

In theory, Handbrake can use VLC to get around DVD DRM but I've not got
it going on the Mac as it keeps claiming it needs a 64bit version of VLC
which, so far as I could tell last time I looked, doesn't exist. On a
Windows machine it may well work fine, and might be worth a try if
they're more Windows-oriented.

And yes, you'd use iTunes to transfer the video.

Jim
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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>
> > <printed> Thanks Jim, I'm probably going to pop round there later
> > (he's got some old / spare power tools he said our daughter can have)
> > so I'll take this with me and try and go through it with him.
> >
> > He's one of the ones I've set up his desktop PC to dual boot into
> > Ubuntu and he said he and the kids are using that more and more now.
> > That could also be a possibility re the ripping / compressing solution
> > but then doesn't have the actual iTunes bit (and I know you can get
> > Linux to do that with other packages). Do I take it that when you have
> > done the business with the above you still would typically use iTunes
> > to do the synching?
>
> I should point out that although Handbrake and VLC are multiplatform,
> RipIt is certainly Mac only, as is almost certainly Fairmount.

DVDRemaster/Fairmount go together as a pair - the former to do the video
data processing, the latter to get access to the data in the first
place.

<http://www.metakine.com/products/>

> In theory, Handbrake can use VLC to get around DVD DRM but I've not got
> it going on the Mac as it keeps claiming it needs a 64bit version of VLC
> which, so far as I could tell last time I looked, doesn't exist.

DVDRemaster relies on VLC/Fairmount to get to the raw data.

The combination DVDRemaster/Fairmount/VLC works as well as on my
Core2Duo Intel iMac running 10.6 as it did on my G5 PowerMac running
10.4.

Both, you'll notice, contain 64 bit CPUs.

Note: DVDRemaster/Fairmount/VLC failed to `do' one of the two Noggin the
Nog DVDs you get when you buy Noggin the Nog on DVD.

Once upon a time, there was another video format converter optimized for
slapping the output onto an iPod. But the author dropped development a
while back, turned it into an open-source project, I can't recall the
name of the blasted thing, and I've failed to find the copy of the old
one that I had on the G5 (lots of discs here, it's on one of them
somewhere, but I've got things I'm trying to do other than find an old
app on spec that I half-recall and can't recall the name of).

Rowland.

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