EXPERIMENTAL ARGUMENTS AGAINST SPECIAL RELATIVITY?
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From: PD on 24 Aug 2008 15:13 On Aug 23, 10:25 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Aug 23, 11:22 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 17, 12:51 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > On Aug 21, 3:45 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 21, 2:07 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 20, 6:31 pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:00:12 -0700 (PDT), NoEinstein <noeinst....(a)bellsouth.net> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >On Aug 20, 8:25 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >> On Aug 19, 9:39 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > >> If you do not like the responses to posts you make an open and > > > > > > >> unfettered forum, examine your motives for posting here, knowing full > > > > > > >> well that you leave yourself open to all sorts of responses. It's been > > > > > > >> suggested to you before that you post to a blog where you can control > > > > > > >> the responses you receive. It is a fool's errand to attempt control > > > > > > >> where you don't have it. Examine your motives. > > > > > > > >> PD- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > >Dear PD: My interest in this newsgroup is about new truths in > > > > > > >science, not about getting into strength of personality battles with > > > > > > >you. In the nearly three years that you have replied to what I have > > > > > > >done (never vice versa), you haven't once responded to reason. Your > > > > > > >ego hinges on the "complexity" of the things you purport to > > > > > > >understand. "Where there is complexity in science, errors likely > > > > > > >loom." > > > > > > > >Your misplaced sense of superiority makes you just a parasite to true > > > > > > >science. Having the last word, isn't the same as being right. I > > > > > > >can't continue to spend hours a week of my time trying to banter with > > > > > > >your "skirting" of science. So, please refrain from replying on my > > > > > > >posts, again. NoEinstein > > > > > > > Diaper is a paid member of the Einsteinian papal guard. He knows nothing about > > > > > > physics. His sole aim is to disrupt constructive scientific discussion and try > > > > > > to postpone the inevitable day when the truth about relativity is exposed and > > > > > > finally accepted by the physics establishment. > > > > > > > Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm > > > > > > > All religion involves selling a nonexistant concept to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > Dear Henri: That one paragraph should be posted on every newsgroup > > > > > Google has! Thanks! NoEinstein > > > > > Why would anybody on alt.religion.buddhism care about what Henri > > > > thinks of me? > > > > PD: Why not put that question to such group? NoEinstein > > > Be my guest. Tell me what kind of response you get. You can point to a > > link to show me, when you've done that. > > > PD- > > Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein Changed your mind? Not going to do it? PD
From: NoEinstein on 24 Aug 2008 18:06 On Aug 24, 3:12 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 23, 10:24 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 23, 11:18 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 22, 7:54 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 21, 3:17 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 21, 2:05 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 12:58 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 10:59 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Your misplaced sense of superiority makes you just a parasite to true > > > > > > > > science. Having the last word, isn't the same as being right. I > > > > > > > > can't continue to spend hours a week of my time trying to banter with > > > > > > > > your "skirting" of science. So, please refrain from replying on my > > > > > > > > posts, again. NoEinstein > > > > > > > > Sorry, NoEinstein, I respond as I choose and not at your whim.. I've > > > > > > > already suggested to you how to post your content in such a way that > > > > > > > you can control responses. Why you would attempt to exert control > > > > > > > where you do not have control is beyond me. > > > > > > > > If you don't want to banter with me, then STOP DOING IT. > > > > > > > > If you need me to stop first, because you can't HELP YOURSELF when I > > > > > > > say something, that is not my problem. > > > > > > > > PD > > > > > > > Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein > > > > > > See? You can't help yourself. > > > > > I'm not going to help you overcome this compulsion. You're going to > > > > > have to conquer this demon all by yourself. > > > > > > PD > > > > > Dear PD: I don't need any help for you to do anything. Being > > > > involved in pointless banter can't resolve differences. Only > > > > objectivity in science can do that. I invite you to take your > > > > comments and you compulsions elsewhere. But when you can't, folks > > > > should note that I predicted just that. NoEinstein > > > > Gee, it's fascinating. Much as you want to resist, you cannot. I toy > > > with you and you beg ("invite") me to stop, over and over and over > > > again. You are subject to my whim. If I choose to release you, I can, > > > by simply acquiescing to your plea to not respond to you. But if I > > > don't so choose, you are enthralled and you find yourself compulsively > > > bound to respond, even if it means projecting your own compulsion on > > > others to try to exert control. > > > > You attempt to exert control over responses on a public forum where > > > you BY DEFINITION do not have control. And indeed, you find yourself > > > completely under the control of others, because once you post, you are > > > compelled to respond to every reply, whether you want to or not. And > > > despite your abject slavery, you cannot walk away from posting to this > > > group. You cannot create a free blog, you cannot publish. Instead, the > > > ONLY thing you are capable of doing is posting to a forum that > > > frustrates you, and writing letters to presidents that you know from > > > the outset will be ignored. > > > > I don't know why you have this psychological issue, NoEinstein, but I > > > can imagine it's rather crippling and has led to an enormous sense of > > > failure. > > > > PD- > > > Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein > > See? There you did it AGAIN! > You must be completely frustrated with yourself, that I have complete > and total power over you. I do something that I know is going to make > you yap, and you yap. I might as well be holding a little doggie > biscuit and commanding you, "Speak!" > > Have you ever looked in the mirror and wondered why you have such a > compulsion about this? Have you wondered why your self-image is so > fragile that you absolutely MUST have the last word, as a token of > control? Attempting to assert control where you have no control is a > symptom for those whose lives have spun out of control, and are > totally frustrated with their lot in life. Do you not see this as a > problem for you? > > PD > > PD- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein
From: NoEinstein on 24 Aug 2008 18:06 On Aug 24, 3:13 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 23, 10:25 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 23, 11:22 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 17, 12:51 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 21, 3:45 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 21, 2:07 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 6:31 pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:00:12 -0700 (PDT), NoEinstein <noeinst....(a)bellsouth.net> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >On Aug 20, 8:25 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> On Aug 19, 9:39 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> If you do not like the responses to posts you make an open and > > > > > > > >> unfettered forum, examine your motives for posting here, knowing full > > > > > > > >> well that you leave yourself open to all sorts of responses. It's been > > > > > > > >> suggested to you before that you post to a blog where you can control > > > > > > > >> the responses you receive. It is a fool's errand to attempt control > > > > > > > >> where you don't have it. Examine your motives. > > > > > > > > >> PD- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > >Dear PD: My interest in this newsgroup is about new truths in > > > > > > > >science, not about getting into strength of personality battles with > > > > > > > >you. In the nearly three years that you have replied to what I have > > > > > > > >done (never vice versa), you haven't once responded to reason. Your > > > > > > > >ego hinges on the "complexity" of the things you purport to > > > > > > > >understand. "Where there is complexity in science, errors likely > > > > > > > >loom." > > > > > > > > >Your misplaced sense of superiority makes you just a parasite to true > > > > > > > >science. Having the last word, isn't the same as being right. I > > > > > > > >can't continue to spend hours a week of my time trying to banter with > > > > > > > >your "skirting" of science. So, please refrain from replying on my > > > > > > > >posts, again. NoEinstein > > > > > > > > Diaper is a paid member of the Einsteinian papal guard. He knows nothing about > > > > > > > physics. His sole aim is to disrupt constructive scientific discussion and try > > > > > > > to postpone the inevitable day when the truth about relativity is exposed and > > > > > > > finally accepted by the physics establishment. > > > > > > > > Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index..htm > > > > > > > > All religion involves selling a nonexistant concept to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > Dear Henri: That one paragraph should be posted on every newsgroup > > > > > > Google has! Thanks! NoEinstein > > > > > > Why would anybody on alt.religion.buddhism care about what Henri > > > > > thinks of me? > > > > > PD: Why not put that question to such group? NoEinstein > > > > Be my guest. Tell me what kind of response you get. You can point to a > > > link to show me, when you've done that. > > > > PD- > > > Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein > > Changed your mind? Not going to do it? > > PD- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein
From: PD on 25 Aug 2008 08:40 On Aug 24, 5:06 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Aug 24, 3:12 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 23, 10:24 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > On Aug 23, 11:18 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 22, 7:54 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 21, 3:17 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 21, 2:05 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 12:58 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 10:59 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Your misplaced sense of superiority makes you just a parasite to true > > > > > > > > > science. Having the last word, isn't the same as being right. I > > > > > > > > > can't continue to spend hours a week of my time trying to banter with > > > > > > > > > your "skirting" of science. So, please refrain from replying on my > > > > > > > > > posts, again. NoEinstein > > > > > > > > > Sorry, NoEinstein, I respond as I choose and not at your whim. I've > > > > > > > > already suggested to you how to post your content in such a way that > > > > > > > > you can control responses. Why you would attempt to exert control > > > > > > > > where you do not have control is beyond me. > > > > > > > > > If you don't want to banter with me, then STOP DOING IT. > > > > > > > > > If you need me to stop first, because you can't HELP YOURSELF when I > > > > > > > > say something, that is not my problem. > > > > > > > > > PD > > > > > > > > Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein > > > > > > > See? You can't help yourself. > > > > > > I'm not going to help you overcome this compulsion. You're going to > > > > > > have to conquer this demon all by yourself. > > > > > > > PD > > > > > > Dear PD: I don't need any help for you to do anything. Being > > > > > involved in pointless banter can't resolve differences. Only > > > > > objectivity in science can do that. I invite you to take your > > > > > comments and you compulsions elsewhere. But when you can't, folks > > > > > should note that I predicted just that. NoEinstein > > > > > Gee, it's fascinating. Much as you want to resist, you cannot. I toy > > > > with you and you beg ("invite") me to stop, over and over and over > > > > again. You are subject to my whim. If I choose to release you, I can, > > > > by simply acquiescing to your plea to not respond to you. But if I > > > > don't so choose, you are enthralled and you find yourself compulsively > > > > bound to respond, even if it means projecting your own compulsion on > > > > others to try to exert control. > > > > > You attempt to exert control over responses on a public forum where > > > > you BY DEFINITION do not have control. And indeed, you find yourself > > > > completely under the control of others, because once you post, you are > > > > compelled to respond to every reply, whether you want to or not. And > > > > despite your abject slavery, you cannot walk away from posting to this > > > > group. You cannot create a free blog, you cannot publish. Instead, the > > > > ONLY thing you are capable of doing is posting to a forum that > > > > frustrates you, and writing letters to presidents that you know from > > > > the outset will be ignored. > > > > > I don't know why you have this psychological issue, NoEinstein, but I > > > > can imagine it's rather crippling and has led to an enormous sense of > > > > failure. > > > > > PD- > > > > Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein > > > See? There you did it AGAIN! > > You must be completely frustrated with yourself, that I have complete > > and total power over you. I do something that I know is going to make > > you yap, and you yap. I might as well be holding a little doggie > > biscuit and commanding you, "Speak!" > > > Have you ever looked in the mirror and wondered why you have such a > > compulsion about this? Have you wondered why your self-image is so > > fragile that you absolutely MUST have the last word, as a token of > > control? Attempting to assert control where you have no control is a > > symptom for those whose lives have spun out of control, and are > > totally frustrated with their lot in life. Do you not see this as a > > problem for you? > > > PD > > Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein Fabulously, spectacularly pathetic. How long can I make you do little doggie tricks? Speak, boy, speak! PD
From: NoEinstein on 25 Aug 2008 20:50
On Aug 24, 3:12 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 23, 10:24 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 23, 11:18 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 22, 7:54 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 21, 3:17 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 21, 2:05 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 12:58 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 10:59 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Your misplaced sense of superiority makes you just a parasite to true > > > > > > > > science. Having the last word, isn't the same as being right. I > > > > > > > > can't continue to spend hours a week of my time trying to banter with > > > > > > > > your "skirting" of science. So, please refrain from replying on my > > > > > > > > posts, again. NoEinstein > > > > > > > > Sorry, NoEinstein, I respond as I choose and not at your whim.. I've > > > > > > > already suggested to you how to post your content in such a way that > > > > > > > you can control responses. Why you would attempt to exert control > > > > > > > where you do not have control is beyond me. > > > > > > > > If you don't want to banter with me, then STOP DOING IT. > > > > > > > > If you need me to stop first, because you can't HELP YOURSELF when I > > > > > > > say something, that is not my problem. > > > > > > > > PD > > > > > > > Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein > > > > > > See? You can't help yourself. > > > > > I'm not going to help you overcome this compulsion. You're going to > > > > > have to conquer this demon all by yourself. > > > > > > PD > > > > > Dear PD: I don't need any help for you to do anything. Being > > > > involved in pointless banter can't resolve differences. Only > > > > objectivity in science can do that. I invite you to take your > > > > comments and you compulsions elsewhere. But when you can't, folks > > > > should note that I predicted just that. NoEinstein > > > > Gee, it's fascinating. Much as you want to resist, you cannot. I toy > > > with you and you beg ("invite") me to stop, over and over and over > > > again. You are subject to my whim. If I choose to release you, I can, > > > by simply acquiescing to your plea to not respond to you. But if I > > > don't so choose, you are enthralled and you find yourself compulsively > > > bound to respond, even if it means projecting your own compulsion on > > > others to try to exert control. > > > > You attempt to exert control over responses on a public forum where > > > you BY DEFINITION do not have control. And indeed, you find yourself > > > completely under the control of others, because once you post, you are > > > compelled to respond to every reply, whether you want to or not. And > > > despite your abject slavery, you cannot walk away from posting to this > > > group. You cannot create a free blog, you cannot publish. Instead, the > > > ONLY thing you are capable of doing is posting to a forum that > > > frustrates you, and writing letters to presidents that you know from > > > the outset will be ignored. > > > > I don't know why you have this psychological issue, NoEinstein, but I > > > can imagine it's rather crippling and has led to an enormous sense of > > > failure. > > > > PD- > > > Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein > > See? There you did it AGAIN! > You must be completely frustrated with yourself, that I have complete > and total power over you. I do something that I know is going to make > you yap, and you yap. I might as well be holding a little doggie > biscuit and commanding you, "Speak!" > > Have you ever looked in the mirror and wondered why you have such a > compulsion about this? Have you wondered why your self-image is so > fragile that you absolutely MUST have the last word, as a token of > control? Attempting to assert control where you have no control is a > symptom for those whose lives have spun out of control, and are > totally frustrated with their lot in life. Do you not see this as a > problem for you? > > PD > > PD- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein |