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From: Davoud on 17 Feb 2010 20:35
OP:
> > Is there a better method?

Davoud:
> > Yes. It's called Dreamweaver. Writing html by hand is walking 500
> > miles. Using a wysiwyg editor like Dreamweaver is driving 500 miles. No
> > criticism of people who _want_ to spend two weeks getting someplace,
> > but the automobile is a handy thing when you need to be there today.

dorayme:
> It is not like this for everyone. For some people, they walk a
> short distance quickly and get what they want to get without
> laying a trail of garbage for 500 miles that then they spend
> pesky hours having to clean up when there are all manner of
> complaints.

I have visited Oz (comparable in size to the 48 contiguous states of
the United States), and you and I both know that it is sometimes
necessary to travel 500 miles. I stand by my analogy, the crux of which
is that practically everything has an easy way and a hard way, or a
fast way and a slow way.

Davoud

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From: dorayme on 17 Feb 2010 21:38
In article <170220102035392324%star(a)sky.net>,
Davoud <star(a)sky.net> wrote:

> OP:
> > > Is there a better method?
>
> Davoud:
> > > Yes. It's called Dreamweaver. Writing html by hand is walking 500
> > > miles. Using a wysiwyg editor like Dreamweaver is driving 500 miles. No
> > > criticism of people who _want_ to spend two weeks getting someplace,
> > > but the automobile is a handy thing when you need to be there today.
>
> dorayme:
> > It is not like this for everyone. For some people, they walk a
> > short distance quickly and get what they want to get without
> > laying a trail of garbage for 500 miles that then they spend
> > pesky hours having to clean up when there are all manner of
> > complaints.
>
> I have visited Oz ...

....and so on in irrelevant manner!

--
dorayme
From: Calum on 18 Feb 2010 19:53
On 17/02/10 23:37, TaliesinSoft wrote:

> I can't disagree that one who is versed in HTML can produce an elegant
> web page. On the other hand, for those that are not so versed, I
> strongly recommend Freeway (which comes in both Pro and Express versions
> <www.softpress.com>) which allows one to create a website using a WSYWIG
> interface and which requires absolutely no knowledge of HTML and which
> produces fully W3C compliant code!

One of the joys of web design is that there's no such things as a
WYSIWYG development environment. Only WYSIARAOWSMSDOWFSBBSTU (What You
See Is A Rough Approximation Of What Somebody Else Might See, Depending
On What Fonts, Stylesheets, Browser, and Browser Settings They're Using.)

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From: Warren Oates on 19 Feb 2010 18:30
In article <hlkndv$1oe8$1(a)adenine.netfront.net>,
Calum <com.gmail(a)nospam.scottishwildcat> wrote:

> One of the joys of web design is that there's no such things as a
> WYSIWYG development environment. Only WYSIARAOWSMSDOWFSBBSTU (What You
> See Is A Rough Approximation Of What Somebody Else Might See, Depending
> On What Fonts, Stylesheets, Browser, and Browser Settings They're Using.)

My sites look the same everywhere; that's why it's called "design."
--
Very old woody beets will never cook tender.
-- Fannie Farmer
From: dorayme on 19 Feb 2010 18:43
In article <4b7f1f2e$0$9201$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <hlkndv$1oe8$1(a)adenine.netfront.net>,
> Calum <com.gmail(a)nospam.scottishwildcat> wrote:
>
> > One of the joys of web design is that there's no such things as a
> > WYSIWYG development environment. Only WYSIARAOWSMSDOWFSBBSTU (What You
> > See Is A Rough Approximation Of What Somebody Else Might See, Depending
> > On What Fonts, Stylesheets, Browser, and Browser Settings They're Using.)
>
> My sites look the same everywhere; that's why it's called "design."

Although we all do it, it is probably better not to worry too
much how a website looks, especially pixel-perfect-wise. Indeed,
these WYSIWYG programs will never help anyone using them to
understand the importance of semantic mark up and how all kinds
of folk might be accessing the websites to get the information
there.

--
dorayme
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