Elements of Style in English
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From: His kennyness on 3 May 2010 15:41 Tim Bradshaw wrote: > On 2010-05-03 18:25:12 +0100, Lewis said: > >> And that is the heart of Xah's issues with everything in my experience >> going back way too many years. He is driven enough to learn quite a bit >> about a topic, but at the point where most people have an epiphany that >> this is something they really want to know well, Xah has a moment where >> he decides he is now an expert and doesn't need to learn anything else. > > Since we're doing psychiatry now, this is exactly the impression I get > from Mathematica as well. That may not be coincidence. > The most deadly time for a motorcyclist is when they have not five miles experience but five hundred. hth, kzo
From: Tim Bradshaw on 3 May 2010 16:27 On 2010-05-03 20:41:37 +0100, His kennyness said: > The most deadly time for a motorcyclist is when they have not five > miles experience but five hundred. Most mountaineering accidents happen on the way down
From: Aleksej Saushev on 12 May 2010 16:56 Stan Brown <the_stan_brown(a)fastmail.fm> writes: > the need for a verb to have a subject, are first-semester > stuff in any European language. Obviously, you don't know European languages. Let's see. Search engine brings this: http://learningrussian.net/ Lessons are here: http://learningrussian.net/russian-lessons/ First lesson is about alphabet and pronounciation, nothing to look there, the second one is about greetings: http://learningrussian.net/hello_in_russian_greetings.php Let's skip first trivial greetings and jump to "how are you?" section. "��� ����?" Surprise! A sentence without verb. "��� ������?" Surprise! Another sentence without verb. "��� ���������?" Surprise! The verb without subject. Do you think this is exception? Alright, let's go on and find another chapter with sentences. The next one is this: http://learningrussian.net/hello_in_russian_greetings_grammar2.php "����� �������������?" - No verb. "��� ��� �����?" - Verb without subject. "��� ����?" - No verb. "��� ������?" - No verb. "�ӣ ������." - No verb. Maybe that's because they propose simplified language for beginners. Alright, let's see what they propose in literature section: http://learningrussian.net/russian-literature/ "Notes from the Underground." "� ������� �������..." - No verb. "� ���� �������." - Again no verb. "����������������� � �������." - And again no verb. "� �����, ��� � ���� ����� ������." - Only the fourth sentence brings subject and verb you expect. Oh, "Anna Karenina." This one you don't need to read at all since the first sentence is known by heart: "��� ���������� ����� ������ ���� �� �����..." - No verb. "...������ ������������ ����� ����������� ��-������." - No verb again. -- HE CE3OH...
From: Peter Moylan on 12 May 2010 18:56 Aleksej Saushev wrote: > Stan Brown <the_stan_brown(a)fastmail.fm> writes: > >> the need for a verb to have a subject, are first-semester >> stuff in any European language. > > Obviously, you don't know European languages. In fact, Stan's claim is easily refuted [*] by translating the English "It's raining" into a few other languages. *In the traditional meaning of "refuted". I haven't yet caught up with our news reporters, who believe that "refute" means "deny". Still, we have to remember that Stan was addressing Xah Lee's claim to be fluent in English. In that context, he makes sense. > Alright, let's see what they propose in literature section: > > http://learningrussian.net/russian-literature/ > > "Notes from the Underground." > > "� ������� �������..." - No verb. Although I take the rest of your point, I don't think this is a good example. It doesn't take long for the learner of any second language to discover that his/her intuition about the verb "to be" can never be transported from one language to another. It's an exception to the rules about verbs in just about any language. -- Peter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org For an e-mail address, see my web page.
From: Peter Moylan on 12 May 2010 21:57
Cor wrote: > But on a lighter note, as a student in the russian-for-beginners > course once said: > I read two books , War and Peace ... I like both kinds of music. -- Peter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org For an e-mail address, see my web page. |