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From: Mike Easter on 15 Dec 2009 19:22 Craig wrote: > Interestingly enough, Ubuntu looks to feature F-Spot for > 10.04 and forward, while dropping GIMP. <shrug> <drifting off the eraser and .net and mono topic> I think the advantages of dropping gimp from the default install outweigh the disadvantages. And I'm glad that IrfanView runs just fine under Wine, I haven't found any linux graphics utilities that suit me the same way as IV. If one of the bigidea advantages to dropping gimp from the default install is to migrate new users toward using ubuntu software center (if they want a featured app like gimp) and save CD space eaten up by bulky apps, the logic would suggest that they should also take OO suite out of the default install. It isn't about there being anything 'wrong with' gimp, it is about its relative 'popularity' or lack thereof with the ordinary user to rate a default installation status of a big app. -- Mike Easter
From: Craig on 15 Dec 2009 19:59 On 12/15/2009 04:22 PM, Mike Easter wrote: > It isn't about there being anything 'wrong with' gimp, it is about its > relative 'popularity' or lack thereof with the ordinary user to rate a > default installation status of a big app. My understanding from following the Dallas Ubuntu Developer Summit is that they're just running out of space on wrt the Live CD. -- -Craig
From: C.Joseph Drayton on 15 Dec 2009 20:11 On 12/15/2009 3:36 PM, Dave wrote: > > The reason for not supporting the old code is that the old code was not > designed to run on the operating systems of today and functions do not > work as expected. Eraser 6 was redesigned to ensure that it will match > the coding standards and fit into the software ecosystem like any other > "modern" application" > As an old-school programmer, I read statements like the above and I have to say the concept annoys me. In theory because of the number of (in this case) Windows platforms in use and the wide variety of hardware that it runs on, they needed to standardize the programming. So Microsoft in order to 'fix' holes in the operating systems designs and capabilities created add yet another level between the user and the the computer. Now I will admit that there is a huge amount of hardware out there, and yes I will admit that writing software that works under any 32b Windows is a pain, but what you find is that the programmer that does this gives you leaner, sometimes faster software. By creating this this huge run-time package, Microsoft has given itself another TRY at making sure that the application will work with it operating system. I object to this because I learned one should always use the proper tool for the job . . . "You can kill a mosquito with a sledgehammer, but it is more efficient to use a fly-swatter". By having this .NET as your sole/primary development environment, you are limited to the tools contained there-in. Over the last 30+ years I have learned a number of different languages because different languages were designed to build different types of applications. There are times when I actually still run GWBASIC for down and dirty playing (it is a fast and simple interpreter (ie. no compile time)) with some math concepts. It is my belief that most things generic do a lot of things average/poorly rather than a few things good/well. Sincerely, C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T CSD Computer Services Web site: http://csdcs.site90.net/ E-mail: c.joseph(a)csdcs.site90.net
From: Mark Warner on 15 Dec 2009 20:20 Craig wrote: > On 12/15/2009 04:22 PM, Mike Easter wrote: >> It isn't about there being anything 'wrong with' gimp, it is about its >> relative 'popularity' or lack thereof with the ordinary user to rate a >> default installation status of a big app. > > My understanding from following the Dallas Ubuntu Developer Summit is > that they're just running out of space on wrt the Live CD. Most likely the real reason. Same kind of discussions have been and are continuing regarding the includes on the MEPIS CDs. Heck, it happened right here with the PW CD with the inclusion of the OO.o source, requiring a second CD. -- Mark Warner MEPIS Linux Registered Linux User #415318 ....lose .inhibitions when replying
From: Dave on 15 Dec 2009 23:07
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:29:44 -0800, Craig wrote: > On 12/15/2009 02:59 PM, Dave wrote: >> (even on Linux,it's just called Mono there) > > Yea, that was a real gob-smacker. Tomboy & F-Spot came with Ubuntu > 9.04. Before I learned they were mono-based, I trashed 'em. They're > pretty clunky. Interestingly enough, Ubuntu looks to feature F-Spot for > 10.04 and forward, while dropping GIMP. <shrug> > > Here's a list of mono apps: > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_%28software% 29#Software_developed_with_Mono> Fedora dumped Tomboy and switched to Gnote,a port of Tomboy that's C++ instead of Mono.Fedora's Live CD since the Fedora 10 release has excluded Mono and hence all applications like Tomboy due to lack of space.Wish Ubuntu would keep GIMP and dump the Mono junk.(Tomboy,Banshee,etc) Dave -- Registered Linux user # 444770 |