From: bob on
In article <V8-dnTL61Y78lrXWnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d(a)posted.ccountrynet>,
q34wsk20(a)yahoo.com says...
>
> The latest version of Eraser:
>
> http://eraser.heidi.ie
>
> requires dotnet 3.5 to be installed. This fact is *not* listed anywhere
> on the site AFAICT and I just wasted 20 minutes of my life dealing with
> a failed installation and removing all traces of the changes it imparted
> to my system.
>
> I reluctantly went with dotnet 2 when I installed my new Canon camera's
> software, but I'll be damned if I'll ever install the horribly bloated
> dotnet 3.5 runtime on my system. Your mileage may vary, but for me
> Eraser is effectively no longer being developed. Guess I'll install
> version 5.84 back on my system, or try the update to it (ver. 5.8.8)
> unless it requires dotnet 3.5 too.
>
> It would have been nice if the developers had mentioned somewhere on
> their website that Eraser now requires dotnet 3.5 to be installed. It
> would have saved me a lot of time.

Let me get this straight: You'll load the 63MB .Net 2.0 runtime but not
the 28MB .Net 3.5 runtime because it's "horribly bloated??


From: John Corliss on
bob wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>> The latest version of Eraser:
>>
>> http://eraser.heidi.ie
>>
>> requires dotnet 3.5 to be installed. This fact is *not* listed anywhere
>> on the site AFAICT and I just wasted 20 minutes of my life dealing with
>> a failed installation and removing all traces of the changes it imparted
>> to my system.
>>
>> I reluctantly went with dotnet 2 when I installed my new Canon camera's
>> software, but I'll be damned if I'll ever install the horribly bloated
>> dotnet 3.5 runtime on my system. Your mileage may vary, but for me
>> Eraser is effectively no longer being developed. Guess I'll install
>> version 5.84 back on my system, or try the update to it (ver. 5.8.8)
>> unless it requires dotnet 3.5 too.
>>
>> It would have been nice if the developers had mentioned somewhere on
>> their website that Eraser now requires dotnet 3.5 to be installed. It
>> would have saved me a lot of time.
>
> Let me get this straight: You'll load the 63MB .Net 2.0 runtime but not
> the 28MB .Net 3.5 runtime because it's "horribly bloated??

It's what they do after they're installed that really counts. On my
system, 3.5 slows things down perceptibly. And yes, I actually have had
it installed in the past.

I'd rather rather do without dotnet altogether though. It's all just
bloat from my perspective.

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From: Richard Steinfeld on
Yrrah wrote:
> "a" <b(a)invalid.com>:
>
>> Why? The old Eraser still works, doesn't it?
>
> So do Dos 3.2, PC File and PC Write, I presume.
>
> Yrrah
>

Yes.
Although PC-Write v3 still suffers from one thing: its ability to
deal with nested directories is limited to the length of the
command line...ouch!

I've discovered a newer version that I hadn't known about.
Perhaps that will do (one day soon, I'll check it out). PC-Write
was an excellent writer's tool that ran really swiftly under
limited resources because it was written in down-and-dirty
machine code. PC-File was friendly and simple, but limited.

Richard
From: a on
"Yrrah" <Yrrah-acf(a)acf.invalid> wrote

>> Why? The old Eraser still works, doesn't it?
>
> So do Dos 3.2, PC File and PC Write, I presume.

Yes, but Eraser only does one thing, and that thing doesn't have a need to
evolve like Dos, PC File and PC Write. Secure file deletion is a done and
dusted thing, and secure deletion with the previous version would be just
as secure as the latest version.


From: Richard Steinfeld on
Yrrah wrote:
> (OT)
>
> Richard Steinfeld <rgsteinBUTREMOVETHIS(a)sonicANDTHISTOO.net>:
>
>> PC-File was friendly and simple, but limited.
>
> The DOS one with the GUI (can't remember the version no., was it v.
> 5.01?) wasn't bad at all.

Yes. There was something happy about the thing. I don't remember
the GUI because I was just using the original text-only IBM video.

I don't remember the limitations. Probably field length,
inability to change something or other after the database was set up.

I moved to RapidFile, which I'm still using and still has its own
buzz group. It's one of those advanced bits of outside-the-box
coding like ECCO. Folks, these are both abandonware and can be
had in the spirit of this newsgroup. I recommend ECCO highly, but
RapidFile's interface is dated (DOS).

Looking back, it's obvious that I like excellent innovative software.

Hmmmmm.

Richard
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