Eraser 6 requires dotnet 3.5 or higher.
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From: a on 16 Dec 2009 08:17 "C.Joseph Drayton" <c.joseph(a)csdcs.site90.net> wrote >> The reason for not supporting the old code is that the old code was not >> designed to run on the operating systems of today and functions do not >> work as expected. Eraser 6 was redesigned to ensure that it will match >> the coding standards and fit into the software ecosystem like any other >> "modern" application" >> > > As an old-school programmer, I read statements like the above and I have to say the concept annoys me. > > In theory because of the number of (in this case) Windows platforms in use and the wide variety of hardware that it runs on, they > needed to standardize the programming. > > So Microsoft in order to 'fix' holes in the operating systems designs and capabilities created add yet another level between the > user and the the computer. > > Now I will admit that there is a huge amount of hardware out there, and yes I will admit that writing software that works under > any 32b Windows is a pain, but what you find is that the programmer that does this gives you leaner, sometimes faster software. > > By creating this this huge run-time package, Microsoft has given itself another TRY at making sure that the application will work > with it operating system. > > I object to this because I learned one should always use the proper tool for the job . . . "You can kill a mosquito with a > sledgehammer, but it is more efficient to use a fly-swatter". > > By having this .NET as your sole/primary development environment, you are limited to the tools contained there-in. Over the last > 30+ years I have learned a number of different languages because different languages were designed to build different types of > applications. There are times when I actually still run GWBASIC for down and dirty playing (it is a fast and simple interpreter > (ie. no compile time)) with some math concepts. > > It is my belief that most things generic do a lot of things average/poorly rather than a few things good/well. > > Sincerely, > C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T > > CSD Computer Services > > Web site: http://csdcs.site90.net/ > E-mail: c.joseph(a)csdcs.site90.net +1 to your entire post. I'm an old-school coder too (started in 1980 when I was 10!) and today's apps are just bloated to buggery.
From: Thomas Lauer on 16 Dec 2009 08:51 "a" <b(a)invalid.com> wrote: > "Yrrah" <Yrrah-acf(a)acf.invalid> wrote > > > Time to look for an alternative secure data removal tool. > > Why? The old Eraser still works, doesn't it? ___________^ Some people think "old" means "not as good as new". Depending on the circumstances (think socks, for instance), they may be right. The interplay between "old", "good", "new" and "bad" in the context of software is a lot more subtle than most people believe. -- cheers thomasl web: http://thomaslauer.com/start
From: Zo on 16 Dec 2009 09:04 John Corliss was thinking very hard : > John Corliss wrote: >> John Corliss wrote (regarding Eraser): >> >> Soooo... I tried to install 5.8.8 and it installed, but when I tried to run >> it I got the following error message (direct copy and paste): >> >> --------------------------- >> Setup >> --------------------------- >> Unable to execute file: C:\Program Files\Eraser\eraser.exe CreateProcess >> failed; code 14001. This application has failed to start because the >> application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may >> fix this problem. >> --------------------------- >> OK >> --------------------------- >> >> Guess I'll see if I can still get version 5.84 to run. What a PITA mess >> this is. > > I used my archived copy of the 5.84 installer. Took about 30 seconds to run > it and for everything to be back to normal, back where it was before I tried > to update the version. I tried a newer version from 5.3, Build 5363 sometime ago and it just kept crashing so I went back to my 5.3 version and haven't had any problems since. XP Home SP3. I guess the old saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" really applies in this case. -- Zo The Silent Majority of today are the slaves of tomorrow.
From: John Corliss on 16 Dec 2009 10:58 John Corliss wrote: > John Corliss wrote: >> The latest version of Eraser: >> >> http://eraser.heidi.ie >> >> requires dotnet 3.5 to be installed. This fact is *not* listed >> anywhere on the site AFAICT and I just wasted 20 minutes of my life >> dealing with a failed installation and removing all traces of the >> changes it imparted to my system. >> >> I reluctantly went with dotnet 2 when I installed my new Canon >> camera's software, but I'll be damned if I'll ever install the >> horribly bloated dotnet 3.5 runtime on my system. Your mileage may >> vary, but for me Eraser is effectively no longer being developed. >> Guess I'll install version 5.84 back on my system, or try the update >> to it (ver. 5.8.8) unless it requires dotnet 3.5 too. >> >> It would have been nice if the developers had mentioned somewhere on >> their website that Eraser now requires dotnet 3.5 to be installed. It >> would have saved me a lot of time. > > Soooo... I tried to install 5.8.8 and it installed, but when I tried to > run it I got the following error message (direct copy and paste): > > --------------------------- > Setup > --------------------------- > Unable to execute file: C:\Program Files\Eraser\eraser.exe CreateProcess > failed; code 14001. This application has failed to start because the > application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may > fix this problem. > --------------------------- > OK > --------------------------- > > Guess I'll see if I can still get version 5.84 to run. What a PITA mess > this is. I should mention that I'm running XP Home SP3 on an Intel CPU. -- John Corliss BS206. Using News Proxy, I block all Google Groups posts due to Googlespam, and all x-privat.org posts due to forgeries posted through that service. No ad, cd, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares OR warez for me, please.
From: John Corliss on 16 Dec 2009 11:08
Zo wrote: > John Corliss wrote: >> John Corliss wrote: >>> John Corliss wrote (regarding Eraser): >>> >>> Soooo... I tried to install 5.8.8 and it installed, but when I tried >>> to run it I got the following error message (direct copy and paste): >>> >>> --------------------------- >>> Setup >>> --------------------------- >>> Unable to execute file: C:\Program Files\Eraser\eraser.exe >>> CreateProcess failed; code 14001. This application has failed to >>> start because the application configuration is incorrect. >>> Reinstalling the application may fix this problem. >>> --------------------------- >>> OK >>> --------------------------- >>> >>> Guess I'll see if I can still get version 5.84 to run. What a PITA >>> mess this is. >> >> I used my archived copy of the 5.84 installer. Took about 30 seconds >> to run it and for everything to be back to normal, back where it was >> before I tried to update the version. > > I tried a newer version from 5.3, Build 5363 sometime ago and it just > kept crashing so I went back to my 5.3 version and haven't had any > problems since. XP Home SP3. I guess the old saying "if it ain't > broke, don't fix it" really applies in this case. It would be nice if there was a way to contact the authors and mention the installation problems, but unfortunately all I could find was this page: http://www.tolvanen.com/contact/ where Sami says, "Sometimes even I don't read my email, so probably nobody else is going to either." I just registered for their forum and posted a message that this discussion is going on here. Maybe they'll participate (I hope). -- John Corliss BS206. Using News Proxy, I block all Google Groups posts due to Googlespam, and all x-privat.org posts due to forgeries posted through that service. No ad, cd, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares OR warez for me, please. |