Evaluation of Karen's Replicator 3.5.1
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From: dadiOH on 15 Aug 2007 12:11 John Corliss wrote: > I downloaded and installed this program, hoping it would be > something that could clone my main hard drive's main partition to > my backup hard drive's backup partition and do it incrementally. > > Good news is that it's incremental, bad news is that it doesn't do a > genuine clone on my XP Home SP2 computer. This is because the > following files couldn't be copied because of Error 32 - "The > process cannot access the file because it is being used by another > process": > > C:\Documents and Settings\(my user name)\ntuser.dat > C:\Documents and Settings\(my user name)\ntuser.dat.LOG > C:\Documents and Settings\(my user name)\Local Settings\Application > Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat > C:\Documents and Settings\(my user name)\Local Settings\Application > Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat.LOG > C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\NTUSER.DAT > C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\ntuser.dat.LOG > C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Local Settings\Application > Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat > C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Local Settings\Application > Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat.LOG > C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\EventCache\(some CLSID).bin > C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\default > C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\default.LOG > C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SAM > C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SAM.LOG > C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SECURITY > C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SECURITY.LOG > C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\software > C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\software.LOG > C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system > C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system.LOG > > This failure to copy the registry, AFAIK, would mean that the backup > partition would be unable to start Windows, at least without more > than the default registry settings. I'm confused by the your reference to the registry as I see no registry files in your list. At least, not as I know them in Win98. Does the XP registry contain something else? _____________ > I guess it's a keeper, but I still would like to be able to > incrementally clone my main partition (non-compressed) to my backup > hard drive so that if my main drive fails, all I have to do is to > yank it and hook up the backup (slave) drive as the master drive to > be back in business until the replacement hard drive arrives. I use Karen's Replicator v 1.08.0010 (aka v1.8.10). I once updated it but went back to that version because it *does* copy everything. Except the swap file which is un-needed. I *can* unplug my primary drive, plug in a backup drive (made "active" when formatting) to that channel and boot from it. That's with Win98, YMMV with XP. I see nothing that would preclude passing on my old copy of the program; assuming that is the case, I would be pleased to send you a copy if you wish...just let me know via email (see address in "reply to sender"). BTW, it doesn't "clone" (a sector to sector copy) but copies files/directories...where those files/directories physically reside on the backup drive is unimportant, only the structure is. The only thing that need be in a specific location is the boot sector and that was written when the drive was made active. That needs to be in a specific place because the BIOS has to find it where expected so that it can be loaded by BIOS; the boot then continues using the code/data in that sector. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
From: bluerhinoceros on 15 Aug 2007 12:44 dadiOH wrote: > I'm confused by the your reference to the registry as I see no > registry files in your list. At least, not as I know them in Win98. > Does the XP registry contain something else? Hi DadiOH: XP's registry files are in %systemroot%\system32\config (DEFAULT, SAM, SECURITY, SOFTWARE and SYSTEM) and %userprofile% (NTUSER.DAT). Cheers.
From: aafuss on 15 Aug 2007 16:00 Some Karenware apps need VB6 runtimes.
From: John Corliss on 16 Aug 2007 07:44 bluerhinoceros wrote: > John Corliss wrote: > > <snip> > >> files couldn't be copied because of Error 32 - "The process cannot >> access the file because it is being used by another process": > > <snip> > >> of the backup strategies I use. No preaching to me about how to back >> up my $#!%?%! data, PLEASE! > > Hi John: > > I hope you will see this as informative rather than preachy, Not at all! > but there's > an article here that discusses accessing VSS copies under XP. You may > find it interesting or even useful. > > http://blogs.msdn.com/adioltean/archive/2006/09/18/761515.aspx > > Cheers. Thanks for posting that. I'll try to grock it after reviewing this thread. 80)> -- John Corliss BS206. I try not to reply to trolls like Andy Mabbett, Bear Bottoms, Hummingbird or proteanthread. Due to all the spam coming from that service, I use NFilter to block all Google Groups posts from being displayed in my news reader. No ad, cd, commercial, cripple, demo, NAGWARE, share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares or warez for me, please.
From: John Corliss on 16 Aug 2007 08:50
Craig wrote: > meerkat wrote: >> "John Corliss" wrote: > ... >>> >>> Good news is that it's incremental, bad news is that it doesn't do a >>> genuine clone on my XP Home SP2 computer. This is because the >>> following files couldn't be copied because of Error 32 - "The process >>> cannot access the file because it is being used by another process": >>> >>> C:\Documents and Settings\(my user name)\ntuser.dat >>> C:\Documents and Settings\(my user name)\Local Settings\Application >>> Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat >>> C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\NTUSER.DAT >>> C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Local Settings\Application >>> Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat >>> C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\EventCache\(some CLSID).bin >>> C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\default >>> C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SAM >>> C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SECURITY >>> C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\software >>> C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system >>> >>> >>> This failure to copy the registry, AFAIK, would mean that the backup >>> partition would be unable to start Windows, at least without more >>> than the default registry settings. >>> >>> Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. >> >> You`re correct John. > > Let's not give up the ghost just yet ... NTOS distributions, since at > least NT 4.0, have included a system state back up utility. If you're > able to manipulate the files in /that/ backup (ie uncompress & dump to > sub-dir) then Karen's can grab it. In XP Home, one can use the Microsoft Backup utility. Finding this program might be hard though. From this site: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/learnmore/bott_03july14.mspx (link may wrap) the following: _________________________________________ If you use Windows XP Professional, the Windows Backup utility (Ntbackup.exe) should be ready for use. If you use Windows XP Home Edition, you'll need to follow these steps to install the utility: 1. Insert your Windows XP CD into the drive and, if necessary, double-click the CD icon in My Computer. 2. On the Welcome to Microsoft Windows XP screen, click Perform Additional Tasks. 3. Click Browse this CD. 4. In Windows Explorer, double-click the ValueAdd folder, then Msft, and then Ntbackup. 5. Double-click Ntbackup.msi to install the Backup utility. _________________________________________ Once you have Backup installed, do the following: 1. Click on the "Backup Wizard (Advanced)" 2. Press the "Next" button when it opens 3. Select the "Only back up the System State data 4. Press the "Next" button 5. Press the "Browse..." button 6. Select a name for the backup Now here's where it gets interesting. Press the "Advanced" button to "specify additional backup options". Check out the dropdown list! The options available are: Normal Copy *Incremental* <----- NOTE!!! Differential Daily and I presume these options would be available for _any kind of backup_ that the MS Backup utility can do. Worth checking out anyway. > So, it'd look like this: > > 1) run the system state backup proggie for your flavor of NTOS > 2) extract files > 3) run Karen's to exclude open system state files and include archived > system state files. I just ran a System State Backup and the file it created is almost half a gig (455,780 KB)! As far as being able to get into a MS proprietary file format like that too, I don't know where to start. I Googled in vain for freeware to extract files from a .bkf file. As a side note, there is also this minor consideration somebody mentioned at a site I passed through: "I read online that if you backed up information (using MS Backup) and then installed windows with a different product key, it will not work (being able to restore anything from the .bkf that MS Backup created)." > Hopefully this could be automated w/scheduling services & autoHotKey (or > whatever that's called). Btw, stepping back a bit, have you contacted > Karen about this? I understand she's responsive ... in between > point-releases that is <grin>. Karen's frantically trying to make her utilities Vista compatible. I don't envy her the task. Otherwise, 'fraid I haven't contacted her yet, Craig. And due to the fact that so many backup programs limit this ability to their $ware versions, she may be unwilling to step on any toes by putting the feature in Replicator. I also feel bad about the following: "Karen receives over a thousand e-mails each week, so she can't promise to personally reply to each one. But she does read each message she receives, and replies to as many as possible." Man, that's a lot of email to have to go through. I'd hate to contribute to the task. Seems that it might be a good idea for Karen to set up discussion forums for her utilities. FWICS, she hasn't done so yet. PCMIIW. -- John Corliss BS206. I try not to reply to trolls like Andy Mabbett, Bear Bottoms, Hummingbird or proteanthread. Due to all the spam coming from that service, I use NFilter to block all Google Groups posts from being displayed in my news reader. No ad, cd, commercial, cripple, demo, NAGWARE, share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares or warez for me, please. |