From: John Corliss on
Craig wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>> ms wrote:
>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>> (snip)
>>>> *I have a special folder named "Tips, notes and manuals" on my drive
>>>> and the following is what I have to date:
>>>>
>>>> "C:\My Documents\TIPS_N~1\WINDOWS\XP"
>>>>
>>>> About the rmdir command in XP.txt
>>>> Clear the Paging File at shutdown.htm
>>>> Computer cycle theft.wpd
>>>> Descriptions of Services.htm
>>>> Descriptions of Services.rtf
>>>> Disable NetBIOS and LMHOSTS Lookup.txt
>>>> Disable port 445.txt
>>> snip
>>>
>>> Good info, I saved it if I ever get into an XP machine. My present
>>> W2K is trouble-free (so far).
>>
>> Well actually Mike, that was only a list of the *titles* of the info I
>> have stored on my drive. Might be of some use, but bear in mind that
>> some of the actual material contained in the files points out
>> downsides to doing some of the tweaks.
>>
> So;
>
> I've been rebuilding a system recently and have found nlite
> <nliteos.com> to be /extremely/ helpful. Building a custom install
> using nlite, I was able to:
> ~ pre-answer most of the install questions;
> ~ rip out a number of unused services;
> ~ add practically all the hotfixes to date;
> ~ silently install most of the apps the user requested.
>
> It took me close to a day to learn how to make the install the way I
> want it (ie unattended) but, the profile is saved and I can modify it as
> I go. NLite & data backups are the shizzle in my nizzle until we give
> up on NTOS altogether.

Unfortunately:

"Official runtimes needed to run nLite

* .NET Framework 2.0 x86 | 22 MB
* .NET Framework 2.0 x64 | 45 MB"

Strange that a program for removing bloat would require bloat in order
to run.

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From: John Corliss on
dadiOH wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>
>> *I have a special folder named "Tips, notes and manuals" on my
>> drive
>
> I have similar. In addition, I keep a change log...anytime I
> add/delete a program or make some sort of change to the system it is
> documented in the log with the date and brief description in a LIFO
> manner.

I depend on Total Uninstall 2.35's logs for installations. As for
changes to the system, I'm not sure what you're referring to.

> That log also has the dates I backed up my drives so that I
> can easily examine the change log on each drive and determine what
> changes have been made since I last backed up.

I file away the XXCopy logs each time I do a backup. Very good info there.

And now, I'll keep the Replicator logs the same way. By the way, I'm not
sure but I think that Replicator does a better job of logging than XXCopy.

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From: dadiOH on
John Corliss wrote:
> dadiOH wrote:
>> John Corliss wrote:
>>
>>> *I have a special folder named "Tips, notes and manuals" on my
>>> drive
>>
>> I have similar. In addition, I keep a change log...anytime I
>> add/delete a program or make some sort of change to the system it
>> is documented in the log with the date and brief description in a
>> LIFO manner.
>
> I depend on Total Uninstall 2.35's logs for installations.

I use TU too, wouldn't be without it. I still like *my* log better
though. For one thing, when I have TU do an UNinstall, I also have it
dump the TUN so my TU has no record of uninstalls. My log does.
____________

> As for
> changes to the system, I'm not sure what you're referring to.

Oh, various...maybe a different desktop configuration...maybe stuff
like putting a couple of older dll files back in IE so Win Explorer
doesn't choke on massive deletions...updated drivers...


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From: Craig on
John Corliss wrote:
> Craig wrote:
>>>
>> So;
>>
>> I've been rebuilding a system recently and have found nlite
>> <nliteos.com> to be /extremely/ helpful. Building a custom install
>> using nlite, I was able to:
>> ~ pre-answer most of the install questions;
>> ~ rip out a number of unused services;
>> ~ add practically all the hotfixes to date;
>> ~ silently install most of the apps the user requested.
>>
>> It took me close to a day to learn how to make the install the way I
>> want it (ie unattended) but, the profile is saved and I can modify it
>> as I go. NLite & data backups are the shizzle in my nizzle until we
>> give up on NTOS altogether.
>
> Unfortunately:
>
> "Official runtimes needed to run nLite
>
> * .NET Framework 2.0 x86 | 22 MB
> * .NET Framework 2.0 x64 | 45 MB"
>
> Strange that a program for removing bloat would require bloat in order
> to run.
>

Two things John;

1) nlite documents a version w/o .net*
2) "strange," no. Ironic perhaps. Good for a quick smirk though.

Nlite is /yet another great/ justification for a framework such as
dotnet. *If* MS takes dotnet in a bad direction, so be it. There are
open source alternatives all around. Oh, but wait, they're "bloat" too?

In and of itself, a bed of libraries and JITs is a smart way for an OS
provider to reduce the number of potential BSOD's and grab the eyeballs
of the young developers. It's a brilliant way to lower the bar in
development, deployment and maintenance costs. All of these benefit our
freeware community directly.

Repeatedly complaining about dotnet for bloat is actually a bad thing
for the future of freeware, imo. It takes the focus away from the core
issue: MS' *roadmap* for dotnet. It's analogous to complaining about
the position of those infamous deck chairs on the Titanic. The Titanic,
in this case, being MS' roadmap for leasing & DRM'ing our PC's into a
legal and corporate version of a botnet.

Complaining about dotnet for bloat is *precisely* the same folly as
winme/98 users complaining about the "bloat" of NTOS.

Bloat is a problem for two kinds of consumer. Those with:
1) aging systems who will not upgrade,
2) aesthetic issues.

Moving forward, I hope the vast majority of developers simply ignore
complaints like that. And they will. Not one red pfennig has ever been
made off of people who complain about "dotnet bloat." Not one donation
made. The obvious technical benefits far outweigh the concerns of a
shrinking minority.

Bloat is a red herring.

-Craig

*<http://nliteos.com/guide/before.html>
From: John Corliss on
Craig wrote:

> (dotnet is) a brilliant way to lower the bar in
> development, deployment and maintenance costs.

Craig, just out of curiousity, would you care to elaborate on that
portion of your reply?

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