From: Patrick Scheible on
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> writes:

> In article <hrqnk1$9q5$8(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Charles Richmond <frizzle(a)tx.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > And *please* don't tell the bees that they can't fly! We *need*
> > the honey, and we need our crops pollinated!!!
>
> No worry there; no one said that honey bees can't fly, just bumblebees.

The honeybees are dying. We need the bumblebees to fill in.

-- Patrick
From: Paul Magnussen on
Michelle Steiner wrote:


> In the Lensmen (or maybe the Skylark) series, FTL was
> accomplished by negating inertia, resulting in an inertialess drive.
> However, when regaining inertia, the ship (or other object) had its
> intrinsic velocity that it had at the moment it went inertialess.

It was the Lensman series, but the trick was to neutralize inertia, not
negate it. The Boskonians apparently once attempted to negate inertia
by overdriving a Bergenholm, but even Kinnison couldn't understand why :-)
From: Patrick Scheible on
Mensanator <mensanator(a)aol.com> writes:

> On May 4, 9:06=A0pm, Patrick Scheible <k...(a)zipcon.net> wrote:
> > Michelle Steiner <miche...(a)michelle.org> writes:
> > > In article <w9zaasfiabj....(a)zipcon.net>, Patrick Scheible <k...(a)zipcon.=
> net>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > And even Lord Kelvin said that heavier-than-air machines can *n=
> ot*
> > > > > > > fly.
> >
> > > > > > Which is a bizarre belief to hold, as birds are demonstrably heav=
> ier
> > > > > > than air.
> >
> > > > > But they're not machines.
> >
> > > > So why would Lord Kelvin think it was fundamentally impossible to mak=
> e a
> > > > machine to do what a bird does?
> >
> > > Because a bird has less mass per volume than a machine? =A0Because a bi=
> rd
> > > essentially carries only itself, whereas a machine (of the type he was
> > > talking about) would carry people and/or cargo that would add significa=
> ntly
> > > to its weight? =A0Because he lacked the vision to see future developmen=
> ts?
> >
> > I've spent a while chasing Kelvin's quote, and not found the context
> > it was in. =A0I did, however, find this link:
> >
> > http://www.chardmuseum.co.uk/Powered_Flight/
> >
> > which describes Stringfellow's demonstration of an unmanned,
>
> Stringfellow? Is he the guy mentioned in the film "Flight of the
> Phoenix"?

I haven't seen "Flight of the Phoenix". John Stringfellow. His
flying machines were exhibited at the Crystal Palace. He almost had
it -- his patent included adjustable horizontal surface in the tail
and a vertical rudder. He realized a lightweight engine was
essential, and his demonstrated model had one that was good enough to
fly (without a pilot) for a short distance.

-- Patrick

From: Paul Magnussen on
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

> Nobody laughed at Darwin (and, once again, the only real
> opposition to evolution is based on theology).

Plenty of people laughed at Darwin, just as they laughed at poor Lord
Monboddo before him.

Take a look at C.D Darlington's "Genetics and Man'.

Paul Magnussen
From: Mensanator on
On May 5, 3:09 am, "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <g...(a)cable.mendelson.com>
wrote:
> Thomas R. Kettler wrote:
> > That explains why honeybees have been dying by the millions. People
> > having been telling them they can't fly!
>
> ><http://www.greenearthfriend.com/2009/01/colony-collapse-disorder-ccd-hon
> > eybees-dying-by-the-millions/>
>
> They have been dying by the millions because of a disease they had
> no immunity to. There is now a vaccine for it,
>
> The same thing has happened in human history, look up the "black plague"
> (100m dead in 1400), syphilis (1m dead in Europe between 1494-1546) and the
> influenza pandemic  (1918) (50m deaths).

Not exactly the same. Some people did have a natural immunity to
the bubonic plague. They were often the ones who lived.

It has recently been discoved that this natural immunity (a
genetic mutation in the cell structure) also imparts immunity
to HIV (which attacks cells via a similar mechanism to bubonic
plague).

>
> Geoff.
>
> --
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...(a)mendelson.com  N3OWJ/4X1GM
> New word I coined 12/13/09, "Sub-Wikipedia" adj, describing knowledge or
> understanding, as in he has a sub-wikipedia understanding of the situation.
> i.e possessing less facts or information than can be found in the Wikipedia.