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From: Charlie Gibbs on 5 May 2010 21:12 In article <slrnhu3tp2.30t.ianji33(a)zenatode.org.uk>, ianji33(a)googlemail.com (Ian Gregory) writes: > On 2010-05-05, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > >> In article <hrsr4n$2t9$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, >> DRAMA QUEEN <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: >> >>>> ba + (na)^2 >>> >>> Standard Usenet nitpicking: >>> Why is one syllable added and the others multiplied? >> >> Actually, it's raised to a power, not merely multiplied. > > It is multiplied by itself but it would be more consistent to multiply > by 2. Using "+" to stand for concatenation in the first equality with > its usual meaning in the second: > > banana = ba + na + na = ba + 2*na > > Whereas using "*" in an equivalent way: > > banana = ba*na*na = ba*(na)^2 > > So what is the square root of Christmas? Halloween? No, wait, that's a radix change. DEC 25 = OCT 31. -- /~\ cgibbs(a)kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign!
From: Charlie Gibbs on 5 May 2010 21:09 In article <1b4oimeznt.fsf(a)snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily.net>, pfeiffer(a)cs.nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer) writes: > Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> writes: > >> On 05-05-2010 03:20, JF Mezei wrote: >> >>> Wes Groleau wrote: >>> >>>> If a 32-bit integer's bytes are stored (ascending addresses) >>>> DEADBEEF on Intel and EFBEADDE on 68000, the VAX would store >>>> them ADDEEFBE or EFBEADBE. I forget which of those two it >>>> was, but I well remember the trouble it caused me in trying >>>> to accomplish certain tasks on the VAX in 1986-1988. >>> >>> VAX is little endian just like the intel 32 bit X86. First byte >>> contains lowest order byte. You may be refering to different >>> format of hexadecimal memory dump between different operating >>> systems. >> >> I was there. To accomplish a long-forgotten goal, I overlaid a >> four-byte integer on a four-character string. The second and third >> characters were NOT in the order of the first and last. > > Either you mis-diagnosed what you were seeing, or you are > mis-remembering. AAGH! It's the NUXI bug! You could make it happen of you treated the string as an array of two 16-bit integers... -- /~\ cgibbs(a)kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign!
From: Charlie Gibbs on 5 May 2010 21:03 In article <4be1f167$0$5246$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, jennisuzan(a)gmail.com (Jennifer Usher) writes: > "Michelle Steiner" <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote in message > news:michelle-5DEFC7.14490205052010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi... > >> In article <4be1e417$0$5251$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, >> "Jennifer Usher" <jennisuzan(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> Yes in a context relevant to FTL travel - check the references >>>>>> listed in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive for warp >>>>>> bubbles applied to FTL travel. >>>>> >>>>> Eh, he just stole the idea from Zefram Cochrane. ;-) >>>> >>>> That's pretty good, considering that he will probably die before >>>> Cochrane will be born. Time travel, anyone? >>> >>> Maybe he is friends with the Doctor. >> >> Doctor Who? > > Of course. No, he's on first. -- /~\ cgibbs(a)kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign!
From: Joe Pfeiffer on 5 May 2010 20:30 "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs(a)kltpzyxm.invalid> writes: > In article <1b4oimeznt.fsf(a)snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily.net>, > pfeiffer(a)cs.nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer) writes: > >> Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> writes: >> >>> On 05-05-2010 03:20, JF Mezei wrote: >>> >>>> Wes Groleau wrote: >>>> >>>>> If a 32-bit integer's bytes are stored (ascending addresses) >>>>> DEADBEEF on Intel and EFBEADDE on 68000, the VAX would store >>>>> them ADDEEFBE or EFBEADBE. I forget which of those two it >>>>> was, but I well remember the trouble it caused me in trying >>>>> to accomplish certain tasks on the VAX in 1986-1988. >>>> >>>> VAX is little endian just like the intel 32 bit X86. First byte >>>> contains lowest order byte. You may be refering to different >>>> format of hexadecimal memory dump between different operating >>>> systems. >>> >>> I was there. To accomplish a long-forgotten goal, I overlaid a >>> four-byte integer on a four-character string. The second and third >>> characters were NOT in the order of the first and last. >> >> Either you mis-diagnosed what you were seeing, or you are >> mis-remembering. > > AAGH! It's the NUXI bug! > > You could make it happen of you treated the string as an array > of two 16-bit integers... Well, if you printed it like that, anyway: printing would put the high-order byte of each halfword on the left side. But the bytes are still in the correct (i.e. least signficant is at lower address) order. -- As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)
From: Jennifer Usher on 5 May 2010 20:57
"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs(a)kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message news:1068.812T2159T10235148(a)kltpzyxm.invalid... > In article <4be1f167$0$5246$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, > jennisuzan(a)gmail.com > (Jennifer Usher) writes: > >> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote in message >> news:michelle-5DEFC7.14490205052010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi... >> >>> In article <4be1e417$0$5251$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, >>> "Jennifer Usher" <jennisuzan(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> Yes in a context relevant to FTL travel - check the references >>>>>>> listed in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive for warp >>>>>>> bubbles applied to FTL travel. >>>>>> >>>>>> Eh, he just stole the idea from Zefram Cochrane. ;-) >>>>> >>>>> That's pretty good, considering that he will probably die before >>>>> Cochrane will be born. Time travel, anyone? >>>> >>>> Maybe he is friends with the Doctor. >>> >>> Doctor Who? >> >> Of course. > > No, he's on first. Do they have a first in cricket? -- Jennifer Usher |