From: Eduardo M KALINOWSKI on 31 Jan 2010 16:20 On 01/31/2010 07:10 PM, Camaleón wrote: > Some animations, multimedia applications or control buttons for > validating user input data that are embedded in a flash container need to > call external (x)html code (remote javascript, XML files or action > script) to be properly managed and displayed so you can interact with > them. > The Flashblock extension is great to allow these flash's to be displayed, while blocking all the other annoying animated ads. > Not all the flashes out there are just "movies" :-) > But 99% of them are unnecessary, the same effect could be achived with plain old HTML. The end result might be more boring, but just as informational/useful. -- Behind every great man, there is a woman -- urging him on. -- Harry Mudd, "I, Mudd", stardate 4513.3 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI eduardo(a)kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Camaleón on 31 Jan 2010 16:20 On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:44:54 -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:11:37 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón <noelamac(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > ... > >> One is Flash Player, needed as much as hated, but it's a matter of fact >> that for todays browsing is a "must have". > > Disagree. I do most of my browsing in an IW profile without Flash. It's > easy enough to download YouTube video using youtube-dl or clive / > cclive, and the only sites that seem to really require Flash are flashy > game or advertisement sites, which I can generally do without. I don't > deny that Flash can be useful, but I wouldn't call it a "must have". Some animations, multimedia applications or control buttons for validating user input data that are embedded in a flash container need to call external (x)html code (remote javascript, XML files or action script) to be properly managed and displayed so you can interact with them. Not all the flashes out there are just "movies" :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Celejar on 31 Jan 2010 16:20 On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón <noelamac(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:44:54 -0500, Celejar wrote: > > > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:11:37 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón <noelamac(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> One is Flash Player, needed as much as hated, but it's a matter of fact > >> that for todays browsing is a "must have". > > > > Disagree. I do most of my browsing in an IW profile without Flash. It's > > easy enough to download YouTube video using youtube-dl or clive / > > cclive, and the only sites that seem to really require Flash are flashy > > game or advertisement sites, which I can generally do without. I don't > > deny that Flash can be useful, but I wouldn't call it a "must have". > > Some animations, multimedia applications or control buttons for > validating user input data that are embedded in a flash container need to > call external (x)html code (remote javascript, XML files or action > script) to be properly managed and displayed so you can interact with > them. > > Not all the flashes out there are just "movies" :-) Understood, but my point stands: I do most of my browsing without Flash enabled, and don't seem to suffer much for it. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Angus Hedger on 31 Jan 2010 16:40 On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI < eduardo(a)kalinowski.com.br> wrote: > On 01/31/2010 07:10 PM, Camaleón wrote: > >> Some animations, multimedia applications or control buttons for >> validating user input data that are embedded in a flash container need to >> call external (x)html code (remote javascript, XML files or action >> script) to be properly managed and displayed so you can interact with >> them. >> >> > > The Flashblock extension is great to allow these flash's to be displayed, > while blocking all the other annoying animated ads. > > > Not all the flashes out there are just "movies" :-) >> >> > > But 99% of them are unnecessary, the same effect could be achived with > plain old HTML. The end result might be more boring, but just as > informational/useful. > > -- > Behind every great man, there is a woman -- urging him on. > -- Harry Mudd, "I, Mudd", stardate 4513.3 > > Eduardo M KALINOWSKI > eduardo(a)kalinowski.com.br > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a > subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org > > Unfortunately to often websites feel more about style over substance, if I wanted overly shiny jumping and flashing stuff allover my screen I would use OSX or KDE ;) And it doesn't help that flash sucks up ram like no ones business. Regards, Angus.
From: Merciadri Luca on 31 Jan 2010 17:00 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Celejar <celejar(a)gmail.com> writes: >> One is Flash Player, needed as much as hated, but it's a matter of fact >> that for todays browsing is a "must have". > > Disagree. I do most of my browsing in an IW profile without Flash. > It's easy enough to download YouTube video using youtube-dl or clive / > cclive, and the only sites that seem to really require Flash are flashy > game or advertisement sites, which I can generally do without. I don't > deny that Flash can be useful, but I wouldn't call it a "must have". Your config is not one of the most standard, isn't it? Flash is, for me, not a _must have_ (as explained by the other posts), but including ``facilities'' for it in Debian would be really necessary: something like 90% of the users must encounter the same problem as me, and, despite having a nice documentation, Debian is here lacking something. (I really like Debian and I would not use another distro, but this is something from my personal point of view.) I had also problems for Java and related apps. Is default-jre already installed with a default install of Debian? - -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ - -- Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It doesn't work, and you'll annoy the pig. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 <http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/> iEYEARECAAYFAktl9qYACgkQM0LLzLt8MhxfvwCfeABB9RR/PDTWgSZRKPVo4TlS owEAoKnt6aQ7RIDGPMHVryP72y+SUvIt =cXPe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
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