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From: Phil Hobbs on 13 Dec 2009 09:13 Joerg wrote: > Jim Thompson wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:22:15 -0600, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:42:43 -0700, Jim Thompson >>> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:55:49 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:37:44 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> JosephKK wrote: >>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:56:30 -0800, Joerg >>>>>>>> <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> JosephKK wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:51:36 -0800, Joerg >>>>>>>>>> <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I see that you understood me well. 58F is too crispy for me >>>>>>>>>> to get up >>>>>>>>>> without an emergency. I suggest at least two more cords. And >>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>> pellets. ISTR your place was decently insulated, but the cold >>>>>>>>>> snap >>>>>>>>>> has just been extreme. >>>>>>>>> The home is well insulated but the windows aren't. Single pane, >>>>>>>>> albeit thick glass. However, yesterday at the client I found >>>>>>>>> that one of the engineers had just replaced it on his whole >>>>>>>>> house with dual-pane. $30k! Our house has a lot more windows >>>>>>>>> and sliders :-( >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> IOW, there ain't no chance at all to recoup that sort of >>>>>>>>> investment. >>>>>>>> I would not make that decision quite so quickly, dual pane low-E >>>>>>>> can make a big difference in HVAC costs. Ask a "Pro" and reduce >>>>>>>> the promised savings 50%. Also insist on documentation on the >>>>>>>> nature and issues of any proposed savings of "rebates". >>>>>>> Oh yeah, we will be very careful. It seems there are quite some >>>>>>> "inconsistencies" and wild swings in this business when it comes >>>>>>> to pricing. As for HVAC, we don't use AC much in the summer. It's >>>>>>> the wood stove that has to crank so darn hard in winter because >>>>>>> it seems to get colder every winter. >>>>>> On several of our big windows we have "roll-a-shields", somewhat like >>>>>> I've seen in Europe to close off store fronts at night. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.rollashield.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Ours, of course, are electric-powered, but you might prefer >>>>>> hand-cranked ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> We close ours when the sun is on the north side of the house (15' x >>>>>> 15' windows) or, like now, when it's cold at night. >>>>>> >>>>>> Quite effective... the slats are composite layers of >>>>>> aluminum-foam-aluminum. >>>>>> >>>>> We had that in Germany, real heavy duty stuff. However, even people >>>>> in town can't believe the winds we get up here on this knoll until >>>>> they've experienced them. Heavy chairs becoming airborne and so on. >>>>> Would tear this stuff right out of its tracks and then on into the >>>>> road. >>>> The recent microburst that sent the patio furniture careening didn't >>>> do anything to the roll-a-shield... I know it was a microburst... it >>>> completely flipped over a garbage container _within_ our walled-off >>>> garbage container area :-( >>>> >>>>> Now how does the sun get to the _north_ of your house? Did they >>>>> move Arizona south of the equator? Habla Espanol por ahora? >>>> You don't understand summer/winter tilt ?:-) >>> Umm, Phoenix is 33N. The highest latitude where the sun would be >>> overhead (Winter solstice) is 23.5N. >>> >>>> It doesn't get north by much... just enough. >>> If by not much you mean -10degrees. ;-) >>> OTOH, at higher latitudes the summer sun rises/sets quite far to the >>> north of due east/west. >> >> Well, the Sun DOES come in the north-side windows in late afternoon in >> the summer time. I have to shut the shade to keep algae growth down >> in the aquarium. >> > > Are you 100% sure you are still on US soil? > Above the Arctic Circle, the Sun gets round to due north in the summer. The wonders of spherical trigonometry. ;) Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal ElectroOptical Innovations 55 Orchard Rd Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 845-480-2058 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
From: Joerg on 14 Dec 2009 14:27
Phil Hobbs wrote: > Joerg wrote: >> Jim Thompson wrote: >>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:22:15 -0600, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:42:43 -0700, Jim Thompson >>>> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:55:49 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:37:44 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> JosephKK wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:56:30 -0800, Joerg >>>>>>>>> <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> JosephKK wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:51:36 -0800, Joerg >>>>>>>>>>> <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I see that you understood me well. 58F is too crispy for me >>>>>>>>>>> to get up >>>>>>>>>>> without an emergency. I suggest at least two more cords. >>>>>>>>>>> And more >>>>>>>>>>> pellets. ISTR your place was decently insulated, but the >>>>>>>>>>> cold snap >>>>>>>>>>> has just been extreme. >>>>>>>>>> The home is well insulated but the windows aren't. Single >>>>>>>>>> pane, albeit thick glass. However, yesterday at the client I >>>>>>>>>> found that one of the engineers had just replaced it on his >>>>>>>>>> whole house with dual-pane. $30k! Our house has a lot more >>>>>>>>>> windows and sliders :-( >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> IOW, there ain't no chance at all to recoup that sort of >>>>>>>>>> investment. >>>>>>>>> I would not make that decision quite so quickly, dual pane >>>>>>>>> low-E can make a big difference in HVAC costs. Ask a "Pro" and >>>>>>>>> reduce the promised savings 50%. Also insist on documentation >>>>>>>>> on the nature and issues of any proposed savings of "rebates". >>>>>>>> Oh yeah, we will be very careful. It seems there are quite some >>>>>>>> "inconsistencies" and wild swings in this business when it comes >>>>>>>> to pricing. As for HVAC, we don't use AC much in the summer. >>>>>>>> It's the wood stove that has to crank so darn hard in winter >>>>>>>> because it seems to get colder every winter. >>>>>>> On several of our big windows we have "roll-a-shields", somewhat >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> I've seen in Europe to close off store fronts at night. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.rollashield.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ours, of course, are electric-powered, but you might prefer >>>>>>> hand-cranked ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We close ours when the sun is on the north side of the house (15' x >>>>>>> 15' windows) or, like now, when it's cold at night. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Quite effective... the slats are composite layers of >>>>>>> aluminum-foam-aluminum. >>>>>>> >>>>>> We had that in Germany, real heavy duty stuff. However, even >>>>>> people in town can't believe the winds we get up here on this >>>>>> knoll until they've experienced them. Heavy chairs becoming >>>>>> airborne and so on. Would tear this stuff right out of its tracks >>>>>> and then on into the road. >>>>> The recent microburst that sent the patio furniture careening didn't >>>>> do anything to the roll-a-shield... I know it was a microburst... it >>>>> completely flipped over a garbage container _within_ our walled-off >>>>> garbage container area :-( >>>>> >>>>>> Now how does the sun get to the _north_ of your house? Did they >>>>>> move Arizona south of the equator? Habla Espanol por ahora? >>>>> You don't understand summer/winter tilt ?:-) >>>> Umm, Phoenix is 33N. The highest latitude where the sun would be >>>> overhead (Winter solstice) is 23.5N. >>>> >>>>> It doesn't get north by much... just enough. >>>> If by not much you mean -10degrees. ;-) OTOH, at higher latitudes >>>> the summer sun rises/sets quite far to the >>>> north of due east/west. >>> >>> Well, the Sun DOES come in the north-side windows in late afternoon in >>> the summer time. I have to shut the shade to keep algae growth down >>> in the aquarium. >>> >> >> Are you 100% sure you are still on US soil? >> > > Above the Arctic Circle, the Sun gets round to due north in the summer. > The wonders of spherical trigonometry. ;) > Yeah, I have a client up there. But Jim's place doesn't get quite this cold :-) -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM. |