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From: Scott Nudds on 24 Feb 2006 22:25 "Bill Ward" <bwardREMOVE(a)ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:43ffc743.26620481(a)localhost... > > 1.. Casimir, H. G. B. "On the attraction between two perfectly conducting > >plates." Proc. Con. Ned. Akad. van Wetensch B51 (7): 793-796 (1948). > > 2.. Lamoreaux, S. K. "Demonstration of the Casimir force in the 0.6 to 6 > >mm range." Physical review Letters 78 (1): 5-8 (1997). > > 3.. Schwinger, J. "Casimir light: The source." Proceedings of the National > >Academy of Science, 90: 2105-6 (1993). > > 4.. Scharnhorst, K. Physics Letters B236: 354 (1990). > >snicker. > > Perhaps you would be good enough to explain exactly how you > get any energy out of the vacuum using the Casimir force? > > It doesn't count as "free energy" unless you can extract it > (force != energy). You allow to force to operate over any distance you desire and you obtain energy in the process. Take two conductive plates, bring them into close proximity. Allow them to be pushed together by the casimir force, and vacuum energy is converted into "real" energy in the process. Zero point energy is quite real. The matter that surrounds us is simply a froth that rides on top of an ocean of vacuum energy.
From: Tom on 24 Feb 2006 22:27 "Scott Nudds" <void(a)void.com> wrote in message news:gvNLf.150$8d1.82(a)read1.cgocable.net... > . > "Martin Swain" wrote >> Thank you. I still don't like you. If you see me coming you'd better >> duck. > > Whatcha gonna do, slap me silly? Too late. You're already silly.
From: Tom on 24 Feb 2006 22:33 "Scott Nudds" <void(a)void.com> wrote in message news:3KLLf.161$d9.46(a)read2.cgocable.net... > > "Tom" wrote >> Yes, I know. It just doesn't make sense to you. > > Little of what you say does, So it seems. > as it is so spectacularly stupid, Heh. You'd think the stupid things would be the easiest to understand. It's the very complex and subtle things that would be hardest. But I guess that's not true for you. > "Tom" wrote >> Conundrums amuse me. > > Like all forms of spinning objects no doubt. To some degree, yes. "Do these balloons blow up into funny shapes?" "No... Unless round is funny." > "Tom" wrote >> Some people think "smart" means "agrees with me". > > Some stupid people think smart means agrees with Bush. Yep. And some stupid people don't. Agreement or disagreement with Bush is not a definitive test of intelligence.
From: Bill Ward on 24 Feb 2006 22:33 On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:25:43 -0500, "Scott Nudds" <void(a)void.com> wrote: > >"Bill Ward" <bwardREMOVE(a)ix.netcom.com> wrote in message >news:43ffc743.26620481(a)localhost... >> > 1.. Casimir, H. G. B. "On the attraction between two perfectly >conducting >> >plates." Proc. Con. Ned. Akad. van Wetensch B51 (7): 793-796 (1948). >> > 2.. Lamoreaux, S. K. "Demonstration of the Casimir force in the 0.6 to >6 >> >mm range." Physical review Letters 78 (1): 5-8 (1997). >> > 3.. Schwinger, J. "Casimir light: The source." Proceedings of the >National >> >Academy of Science, 90: 2105-6 (1993). >> > 4.. Scharnhorst, K. Physics Letters B236: 354 (1990). >> >snicker. >> >> Perhaps you would be good enough to explain exactly how you >> get any energy out of the vacuum using the Casimir force? >> >> It doesn't count as "free energy" unless you can extract it >> (force != energy). > > You allow to force to operate over any distance you desire and you obtain >energy in the process. > > Take two conductive plates, bring them into close proximity. Allow them >to be pushed together by the casimir force, and vacuum energy is converted >into "real" energy in the process. Ok, now how do you repeat the process without pulling them apart, returning the energy to the vacuum? It looks more like a spring than an energy source. > > Zero point energy is quite real. The matter that surrounds us is simply a >froth that rides on top of an ocean of vacuum energy. >
From: Tom on 24 Feb 2006 22:34
"Scott Nudds" <void(a)void.com> wrote in message news:WGLLf.132$d9.121(a)read2.cgocable.net... > >> > You are a spectacularly energetic public Liar Tom. > > > "Tom" <askpermission(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >> Hey, it's another Archie sock-puppet! > > You are a spectacularly energetic public Liar Tom. Uh oh. He's perseverating. |