GOD, RELATIVITY & THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS
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From: M Otis Beard on 12 Nov 2009 00:13 On Nov 11, 8:28 pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.net> wrote: > > You missed a few of the upcoming headlines: > > VATICAN RECOGNIZES DISCOVERY OF SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD > (Pontifical Academy of Sciences) > > CHIEF RABBI OF JERASULEM AV BETH DIN PROCALIMS MIRACLE > > ARCHBISHO OF CANTERBURY DECLARES SECOND COMING > > DALI LAMA CALLS FOR WORLD ECUMENICAL UNIFICATION > > TALIBAN DECLARES SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF ALLAH > > REV WRIGHT DECLARES GOD LIVES IN AMERICA > > HINDUS RENAME CASTE THE BICAMERAL/2-PARTY SYSTEM > > CHRISTIAN SCIENCE CHURCH SAYS I TOLD YOU SO Substitute 'LIBERTY UNIVERSITY' for the Vatican, the Chief Rabbi, the Archbisho [sic], the Dali Lama [sic], the Taliban, Rev Wright [sic], and the Hindus, and it just might happen. Creationist turd-polishers have a nasty habit of using almost any half-baked nonsense to claim that science validates their irrational beliefs... it's only when science contradicts them that they hide behind the argument that science and religion occupy separate, non-overlapping domains. On the other hand, you're probably too whacko-nutzoid even for them. Maybe you could come up with some kind of mathematical proof that medieval knights used dinosaurs as their steeds? I'm just sayin'. > UNITED NATIONS ANNOUNCES OFFICAL END OF ANTISEMITISM > > SUPREME COURT DECLARES SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD MUST > BE TAUGHT IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS > > U.S. CONGRESS OUTLAWS ATHEISM > > RUSSIAN PALIAMENT ANNOUNCES FREEDOM OF RELIGION, CHINA TO > FOLLOW SUIT OK, now even if we pretend to believe you about your SPOG (and ignore the bad spelling), this part is just so naïve that it couldn't possibly have come from a sane mind over twelve years old. It's like a tiny glimpse through your eyes, George... and what we see through your eyes is a rollercoaster ride through Crazytown on a train made of ego and powered by pure adrenaline. The voices, do they torment you? Do they goad you on, insisting that you spread your squidgy gospel far and wide in hopes of some reward? Do they promise you a throne from which you can sit in judgment of those who doubted you? You can tell me, George... I'm not like the others. I'm your FRIEND.
From: George Hammond on 12 Nov 2009 00:43 On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:35:01 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam(a)buzz.off> wrote: > >Sorry, but this... > >"First, since gravity is real, God is real. Secondly, >tradition tells us that God is "supernatural" and we find >that Relativity explains the supernatural aspect of God. >Relativity is the only physical phenomena which causes a >'supernatural' effect on reality; reality being space and >time itself." > >...contains *at least* 3 significant errors. > >First, the existence of gravity implies nothing about the >existence of God. Gravity is a function of the curvature of >space-time. > > [Hammond] Okay try and pay attention: Gravity is a curvature of OBJECTIVE space time. God is a curvature of SUBJECTIVE space time . Definition: OBJECTIVE space time is measured relative to the clock on the wall and a ruler. SUBJECTIVE space time is what any given individual actually sees. Clearly objective space time is universal for all people. And just as clearly subjective space time is different for every individual. For instance a five-year-old kid sees a larger and faster world than eight point-year-old adult. So that is an example of how SUBJECTIVE SPACE TIME varies from person to person. So your first objection is immediately thrown out of court. > > > >Second, tradition is not evidence for anything (in a >scientific sense); evidence must be visible to all and not >rely on any particular system of belief (other than the >belief that reality is observable) to be considered >scientific. > [Hammond] your second objection is rule of court as follows. We assume the entire history of religion to be an "unsubstantiated claim". And then we discover an actual proven scientific phenomenon which turns out to predict that precise claim in every exact detail! That is what is known as a scientific proof of God. So your second objection has been tossed out of court. > > > >Third, the supernatural is *by definition* outside the >purview of science, which addresses only observable >reality. Relativity is about observable reality; >supernatural entities are not. >Your beliefs don't constrain reality, nor do they constitute >evidence. > > [Hammond] Wrong again Toynbee. Science claims that so-called supernatural phenomena are simply phenomena for which the scientific explanation HAS NOT YET been discovered. So therefore I am simply pointing out that the previously called "supernatural" phenomena of God actually has been found to have a PROVEN experimentally measured and theoretically known, scientific explanation. So your third objection has now been rudely ejected from the courtroom. But don't go away mad, although your commentary is based on elementary misconception of the theory, I am more than impressed by your professional and polite demeanor which indicates a significant ability, awareness, and above all else serious motivation. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
From: George Hammond on 12 Nov 2009 00:44 On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:29:44 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbigtoe(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Nov 11, 2:43�pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.net> wrote: >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:00:27 -0800 (PST), Jimbo >> >> <ckdbig...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> > �It's a common fallacy to >> >> >assume your conclusion, then try to prop it up. >> >> >> [Hammond] >> >> Never did that. �I derived a proven result. >> >> >Yes, you most certainly did. >> >> [Hammond] >> Your apology is magnanimously accepted. >> > > >Your idiocy is duly noted. > > [Hammond] Yours is ignored. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
From: M Otis Beard on 12 Nov 2009 02:41 On Nov 11, 10:30 pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.net> wrote: > > Wake up dimwit, I'm not competent, the establishment is. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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