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From: Bill Sloman on 11 Jan 2010 19:03 On Jan 11, 11:06 am, Raveninghorde <raveninghorde(a)invalid> wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:44:02 -0800, John Larkin > > > > > > <jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:27:33 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman > ><bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote: > > >>On Jan 11, 1:57 am, John Larkin > >><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" > > >>> <mike.terr...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > >>> >No damn way! > > >>> >It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They are > >>> >forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest cold > >>> >spells on record with another cold front headed this way. > > >>> Get used to it. > > >>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1242011/DAVID-ROSE-The.... > > >>The Daily Mail isn't exactly a quality newpaper, and British science > >>reporting isn't wonderful, even in the quality papers. I wouldn't get > >>too excited about this revelation, which the reporter has probably > >>lifted from a denialist web-site. > > >Which nonsense, of course, authorizes you to dismiss the peer-reviewed > >journal article. And all the snow on the ground as well. > > >You seem to have stopped thinking some decades ago. > > The Slow man school of science: > > http://xkcd.com/687/ One wonders how many scientific articles Ravinghorde has published in peer-reviewed journals? If he wanted to find out how many I had, he could search on scholar.google.com with the search string "A W Sloman" (including the quotation marks). His own grasp of science isn't all that secure - he can read scientific papers, but he tends to quote the bits he likes, ignoring that fact that the paper as a whole doesn't tell the story he's understood from the bits he has quoted. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Raveninghorde on 11 Jan 2010 19:37 On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:10:03 -0600, Jim Yanik <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> wrote: >Paul Keinanen <keinanen(a)sci.fi> wrote in >news:etblk55jmdknk4eh747a38sjd58m73fg1f(a)4ax.com: > > >> The cost of wind energy is not just the cost of wind turbines, but >> there are also a lot of infrastructural costs. >> >> > >Like solar panels,they still need maintenance. > Yep, at least with brooms in this weather: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34689202/ns/weather-picture_stories/displaymode/1247/?beginSlide=1 >and both are not any practical replacement for current power generation >needs.
From: John Larkin on 11 Jan 2010 19:44 On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:10:03 -0600, Jim Yanik <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> wrote: >Paul Keinanen <keinanen(a)sci.fi> wrote in >news:etblk55jmdknk4eh747a38sjd58m73fg1f(a)4ax.com: > > >> The cost of wind energy is not just the cost of wind turbines, but >> there are also a lot of infrastructural costs. >> >> > >Like solar panels,they still need maintenance. I see lots of panels bolted to roofs. What happens when the roof needs to be replaced? The solar panels look like great wind sails, too. John
From: Hal Murray on 12 Jan 2010 02:34 >I see lots of panels bolted to roofs. What happens when the roof needs >to be replaced? I assume you lift them up, fix the roof, and put them back down. Roofs last ballpark of 30 years. What's the lifetime of solar panels? Friends have some. They are happy. I think they are breaking even, but I don't know what the payback time is. They report that they have to wash the dust off occasionally during the summer. That's roughly monthly. -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam.
From: Robert Baer on 12 Jan 2010 03:38
John Larkin wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" > <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >> No damn way! >> >> It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They are >> forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest cold >> spells on record with another cold front headed this way. > > > Get used to it. > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1242011/DAVID-ROSE-The-mini-ice-age-starts-here.html > > > John > > I understand that the iguanas in Florida are dying because it is too cold... |