From: Raveninghorde on 17 Jan 2010 11:46 On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 08:30:49 -0800, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:11:05 +0000, Raveninghorde ><raveninghorde(a)invalid> wrote: > >>On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" >><mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> >>>No damn way! >>> >>>It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They are >>>forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest cold >>>spells on record with another cold front headed this way. >> >>The Met Office admit a warming bias >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8462890.stm >> >>/quote >> >>The Met Office admits its annual global mean forecast predicted >>temperatures higher than actual temperatures for nine years out of the >>last 10. >> >>/end quote > >The really interesting thing about the AGW mania, from an engineer's >perspective, is that it has a decent chance of being the greatest >scientific blunder in human history. That would change all sorts of >things. > >John > http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01560/1701-MATT-ST-web_1560549a.jpg
From: John Larkin on 17 Jan 2010 13:09 On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:21:22 +0000, Raveninghorde <raveninghorde(a)invalid> wrote: >On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 08:30:49 -0800, John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:11:05 +0000, Raveninghorde >><raveninghorde(a)invalid> wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" >>><mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>No damn way! >>>> >>>>It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They are >>>>forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest cold >>>>spells on record with another cold front headed this way. >>> >>>The Met Office admit a warming bias >>> >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8462890.stm >>> >>>/quote >>> >>>The Met Office admits its annual global mean forecast predicted >>>temperatures higher than actual temperatures for nine years out of the >>>last 10. >>> >>>/end quote >> >>The really interesting thing about the AGW mania, from an engineer's >>perspective, is that it has a decent chance of being the greatest >>scientific blunder in human history. That would change all sorts of >>things. >> >>John >> > >What is scarry is the attitude that if the models don't agree with the >measurements then the measurements are wrong. The measurements just have to be adjusted. One of the ClimateGate quotes has a prominent researcher hoping that we will have catastrophic global warming so that his models can be proven correct. John
From: Bill Sloman on 17 Jan 2010 21:26 On Jan 16, 5:30 pm, John Larkin <jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:11:05 +0000, Raveninghorde > > <raveninghorde(a)invalid> wrote: > >On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" > ><mike.terr...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > >>No damn way! > > >>It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They are > >>forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest cold > >>spells on record with another cold front headed this way. > > >The Met Office admit a warming bias > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8462890.stm > > >/quote > > >The Met Office admits its annual global mean forecast predicted > >temperatures higher than actual temperatures for nine years out of the > >last 10. > > >/end quote > > The really interesting thing about the AGW mania, from an engineer's > perspective, is that it has a decent chance of being the greatest > scientific blunder in human history. That would change all sorts of > things. Exxon-Mobil's investment in denying global warming has a rather better chance of being the greatest economic blunder in human history. When they get sued for their part in submerging New York, London, Amsterdam and all the other global cities under the rising sea-level there will be much comment on the trifling investment required to produce sucn an enormous liability. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Bill Sloman on 17 Jan 2010 21:27 On Jan 16, 7:21 pm, Raveninghorde <raveninghorde(a)invalid> wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 08:30:49 -0800, John Larkin > > > > > > <jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:11:05 +0000, Raveninghorde > ><raveninghorde(a)invalid> wrote: > > >>On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" > >><mike.terr...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > >>>No damn way! > > >>>It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They are > >>>forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest cold > >>>spells on record with another cold front headed this way. > > >>The Met Office admit a warming bias > > >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8462890.stm > > >>/quote > > >>The Met Office admits its annual global mean forecast predicted > >>temperatures higher than actual temperatures for nine years out of the > >>last 10. > > >>/end quote > > >The really interesting thing about the AGW mania, from an engineer's > >perspective, is that it has a decent chance of being the greatest > >scientific blunder in human history. That would change all sorts of > >things. > > >John > > What is scarry is the attitude that if the models don't agree with the > measurements then the measurements are wrong. > > /quote > > Professor Chris Folland from the Met Office said a re-analysis of > weather science might even show that the actual temperature > measurements have under-recorded recent warming - making the Met > Office forecast even more accurate than it appears. > > /end quote- Hide quoted text - Ravinghorde knows very little about the measurements, and even less about the models, but his infallible conspiracy theory allows him to tell us what is really going on. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: John Larkin on 17 Jan 2010 23:47
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:58:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >No damn way! > >It's 21 degrees in Ocala right now and expected to get colder. They are >forecasting some snow, and this may become one of the longest cold >spells on record with another cold front headed this way. More bad science: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6991177.ece I bet there's a lot more to come. John |