From: Urion on
Personally I don't believe black holes even exist. They sound too far-
fetched and unrealistic to me. There's something new out there but I
don't think it's black holes.
From: NoEinstein on
On Jan 31, 1:10 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
Dear glird: Your link contains discussions of many of the same issues
being debated today. When I set out to correct the errors and lack of
logic in much of physics and cosmology, I knew that I couldn't use the
reference materials of others—lest I become biased. My main tool in
my New Science was simply my own reasoning ability. I was determined
not to lock-in any notion about science until I could reconcile most,
if not all, of the observations in physics. I accept the DATA, but
don't blindly accept the interpretations of others as to what the data
proves. Simply stated: Every physical observation in the Universe
relates to the varying ether flow and density at any point. Ether is
the ENERGY from which everything is made! — NoEinstein —
>
> On Jan 30, 4:46 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > There is some truth in your ideas.  Polish the
> > explanation and you will be aligned with my New Science.  
>
>   My ideas were formulated circa 1953 and first published in 1965.
> I've been polishing them up ever since.  ;-)
>   Incidentally, you can download a free copy of that book, "The Nature
> of Matter and Energy", from
>  http://www.spinbitz.net/anpheon.org/
>   If you do, concentrate on Chapter 43, which -- together with the
> formula on pg 152 -- preempted your New Science.
>
> Regards,
>   glird

From: NoEinstein on
On Feb 1, 7:06 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> On Jan 30, 4:41 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
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> > On Jan 25, 9:37 pm,xxein<xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
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> > > On Jan 19, 9:06 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> > > > On Jan 16, 11:07 pm,xxein<xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Dearxxein:  The MMX was a successful design for measuring distances
> > > > and angles, but was totally wrongly designed to detect the time the of
> > > > travel of light.  Why?  M-M had TWO test courses of light but no
> > > > CONTROL, or unchanging point-of-reference.  And... if the time of
> > > > travel of light had been, or could be, slowed by the flow of ether,
> > > > then, ether most have DRAG.  And if ether has drag, then light
> > > > traveling through such would eventually be slowed to velocity zero.
> > > > The Earth would be a very dark place, and no biological systems could
> > > > exist.  Please know that I've totally disproved SR and GR (beyond the
> > > > latter being a very close ANALOGY).  Read some of the following links
> > > > to understand why.  — NoEinstein —
>
> > >xxein:  Why must ether have a drag?  Light passes through it at a
> > > constant speed.
>
> > Ether drag was the stupid assumption planted by J. C. Maxwell that
> > caused the M-M experiment to be performed in the first place.  Not a
> > single scientist before yours truly has realized that ether only
> > NURTURES the light on its way—not slows it down.  And the only way
> > light could nurture light passage is if the tangential velocity of the
> > smallest energy units of the ether, units I call IOTAs, have a
> > tangential velocity of 'c'.  Either not only moves, it varies in
> > density throughout the Universe.
>
> > > In the context of a SR-GR relativity, I almost hate to use the word
> > > 'relativity'.  But one exists.  Just not the way it is popularly
> > > presented to us.
>
> > I’ve shot Einstein’s notions about… relativity all to HELL—where they
> > deserve to be!
>
> > > Drag?  Ether?  Did you ever consider that the ether could move?  There
> > > is absolutely nothing to prove that it doesn't.
>
> > Ether is constantly flowing.
>
> > > Now how does mass attract?  My guess is that absorbs energy.  Why does
> > > a moon of Jupiter not travel a straight line tangent away?  My guess
> > > is that the moon follows the energy path.  Where is this energy?  If
> > > it were static, there is no curvature.  There must be a movement of
> > > energy.
>
> > Masses attract because they radiate light or charged particles between
> > themselves.  In doing so, the internal ether within the atoms becomes
> > depleted.  That allows the ether beyond the bodies to flow down as
> > GRAVITY.  But because the depletion of ether is LESS on the facing
> > sides of objects than on the opposing sides, there is greater ether
> > flow (gravity) on the opposing sides which forces the two objects to
> > move toward one another.
>
> > > Why does mass absorb energy?  Because there is no internal perpetual
> > > energy to support it's sole existence.  A mass cannot exist as a
> > > closed system.  Energy is available from the outside, however.
>
> > Varying ether flow and density accounts for everything observed about
> > the Universe.  Ether flows in response to pressure differentials, much
> > like in weather systems on Earth.  When photons or charged particles
> > get emitted by any mass, there is a negative pressure created within
> > the mass which allows more ether energy to flow in.  The energy OUT
> > must be replaced by the energy IN.  The latter realization is why I
> > know that Black Holes have ZERO gravity, because all energy (light)
> > out has stopped.  The star distribution data for the Andromeda Galaxy
> > shows how stars that had been destined to be eaten up by the massive
> > star, suddenly flew out on their tangents when that star went...
> > Black.
>
> > > Think for a short minute.  All of the NON-INERTIAL activity going on
> > > in a mass requires energy to proceed.  Where does it get it from?
> > > Sure.  The nuclei can decay and give off energy.  But where does it go
> > > and why should it be contained within the mass when we see that such a
> > > radiation is transmitted outward and affects other distant masses?
>
> > Every time a photon is emitted, the polar IOTAs clump in front and get
> > carried along for the ride.  Eventually, those transported IOTAs wind
> > up at various points near the massive object which emitted the light.
> > THAT is why the flow process approaches perpetual motion.  As long as
> > masses are above absolute zero, gravity will continue to flow down.
>
> > > How about our Sun?  It gives off tremendous radiation energy.  But it
> > > still attracts.  Why?  Because its internal process requires more
> > > energy to exist than the energy that is expended over a certain time.
> > > Otherwise, zilch for an extended lifetime of this process.
>
> > The flowing ether toward the Sun exactly matches the energy the Sun
> > emits. Sunspots are the areas of maximum downward ether flow.  The big
> > oval spots on Jupiter, as well as the bands, are caused by their being
> > favored paths of travel by the downward flowing ether.  Those spots
> > are ovals because the ether spirals into Jupiter and is only vertical
> > at the surface.  The same is true for gravity flow on the Earth.  A
> > billion dollar satellite has been put into Earth orbit, purportedly to
> > prove that Einstein's theories are correct in "predicting" that
> > gravity isn't perpendicular above the Earth.  I could have told the
> > World that fact without taxpayers having to spend a penny (because of
> > the shamefully WASTEFUL NSF)!!
>
> > > NOW, think about it.  How did our Sun come into existence (as a mass)
> > > in the first place?  It wasn't formed from an equilibrium of energy,
> > > was it?  There was a deformity in the ideal equilibrium, wasn't
> > > there?  Is an adiabatic process foreign to your thinking?  Adiabatic
> > > processes cannot arise from an equilibrium.
>
> > My New Science can explain everything.  However, time doesn't allow me
> > to elucidate on such a broad topic in just one reply.
>
> > > We don't know all about adiabatics except for recognizing certain
> > > thresholds that we can measure and put to some math.  We don't really
> > > know the trigger mechanism.  But it's there.  It is hidden in the
> > > physic we DON'T know.
>
> > Keep on thinking deeply.  The answers all lie in the better
> > understanding of ether flow and density.
>
> > > Mass displaces ether???  That is less than there is a fire god.
>
> > Mass NEVER displaces ether!!  Ether flow through mass is required for
> > the mass to exist!  — NoEinstein —- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> xxein:  So you agree that this is good enough to start a new
> understanding of the actual physic.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Give it a try! — NE —
From: NoEinstein on
On Feb 1, 9:21 pm, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote:
> On Jan 30, 3:41 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Mass NEVER displaces ether!!  Ether flow through mass is required for
> > the mass to exist!  — NoEinstein —-
>
> Rephrase?
> Energy flow through the aether falls
> into discrete 3D standing waves
> which because of their explicit
> frequencies are nourished by
> the aether's frequency.A collection of
> these standing waves, or atoms, makes
> up a mass. Each standing wave is simply
> a pattern of energy movement through
> the aether at that point. If it comes over here,
> it will be that same pattern using the aether
> over here.
> If there is a flow of the aether
> it moves into and out
> of the mass itself with no effect on
> the mass. The mass *is* the aether
> wherever it is. They are not separate things.
>
> john

You're getting warm! — NE —
From: spudnik on
you're getting fuzzier than Nein Eins Tein;
you're getting older!

> > If there is a flow of the aether
> > it moves into and out
> > of the mass itself with no effect on
> > the mass. The mass *is* the aether
> > wherever it is. They are not separate things.

> You're getting warm!

thus:
space-time is phase-space, period, and
is almost always an obfuscation -- but
Minkowski died <at about 45>, before he could qualify any
of his lagubrious slogans.

> Vacuum; Space-time; Aether.

thus:
what is a knotted polygon?
let me guess; if
the edges are links with universal joints
between them, then a hexagon can be "knotted"
in the conventional sense (of not being the unknot
or circle).

--les OEuvres!
http://wlym.com