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From: NoEinstein on 16 Feb 2010 13:37 On Feb 15, 8:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Feb 15, 5:10 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 4:41 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > you're getting fuzzier than Nein Eins Tein; > > > you're getting older! > > > > > > If there is a flow of the aether > > > > > it moves into and out > > > > > of the mass itself with no effect on > > > > > the mass. The mass *is* the aether > > > > > wherever it is. They are not separate things. > > > > You're getting warm! > > > > thus: > > > space-time is phase-space, period, and > > > is almost always an obfuscation -- but > > > Minkowski died <at about 45>, before he could qualify any > > > of his lagubrious slogans. > > > > > Vacuum; Space-time; Aether. > > > > thus: > > > what is a knotted polygon? > > > let me guess; if > > > the edges are links with universal joints > > > between them, then a hexagon can be "knotted" > > > in the conventional sense (of not being the unknot > > > or circle). > > > > --les OEuvres!http://wlym.com > > > Come again??? NoEinstein - Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > We are turning in the Earth's geometry. There is no drag. > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - So... Burt. Are you saying that people are INSIDE of the Earth? The only "geometry" of the Earth is defined by x, y, and z coordinates for the flattened sphere shape. NE
From: NoEinstein on 16 Feb 2010 13:50 On Feb 15, 8:45 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Feb 15, 5:10 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 4:41 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > you're getting fuzzier than Nein Eins Tein; > > > you're getting older! > > > > > > If there is a flow of the aether > > > > > it moves into and out > > > > > of the mass itself with no effect on > > > > > the mass. The mass *is* the aether > > > > > wherever it is. They are not separate things. > > > > You're getting warm! > > > > thus: > > > space-time is phase-space, period, and > > > is almost always an obfuscation -- but > > > Minkowski died <at about 45>, before he could qualify any > > > of his lagubrious slogans. > > > > > Vacuum; Space-time; Aether. > > > > thus: > > > what is a knotted polygon? > > > let me guess; if > > > the edges are links with universal joints > > > between them, then a hexagon can be "knotted" > > > in the conventional sense (of not being the unknot > > > or circle). > > > > --les OEuvres!http://wlym.com > > > Come again??? NoEinstein - Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > The strength of gravity inside the event horizon will cause faster > than light fall. We have no metric for it. > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Burt: Light emitted by any luminous object (say a star) that is falling toward a PRE black hole will have the velocity of the light (in the direction of motion) defined as: V = 'c' + v. All velocities, in any... 'frame' (a word most often used by those who are LOST to understand true science) can be measured from the point in REAL space where the object that is being measured WAS at some defined real time in the past. The LOCUS of the object's location at any time will be a straight line or curve that can be analyzed without reference to (or relative to) anything else. NoEinstein
From: BURT on 16 Feb 2010 15:08 On Feb 16, 10:37 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Feb 15, 8:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 5:10 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > On Feb 8, 4:41 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > you're getting fuzzier than Nein Eins Tein; > > > > you're getting older! > > > > > > > If there is a flow of the aether > > > > > > it moves into and out > > > > > > of the mass itself with no effect on > > > > > > the mass. The mass *is* the aether > > > > > > wherever it is. They are not separate things. > > > > > You're getting warm! > > > > > thus: > > > > space-time is phase-space, period, and > > > > is almost always an obfuscation -- but > > > > Minkowski died <at about 45>, before he could qualify any > > > > of his lagubrious slogans. > > > > > > Vacuum; Space-time; Aether. > > > > > thus: > > > > what is a knotted polygon? > > > > let me guess; if > > > > the edges are links with universal joints > > > > between them, then a hexagon can be "knotted" > > > > in the conventional sense (of not being the unknot > > > > or circle). > > > > > --les OEuvres!http://wlym.com > > > > Come again??? NoEinstein - Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > We are turning in the Earth's geometry. There is no drag. > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > So... Burt. Are you saying that people are INSIDE of the Earth? The > only "geometry" of the Earth is defined by x, y, and z coordinates for > the flattened sphere shape. NE - Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Albert Einstein's space-time continuum is comprized of these infinitely small points with energy in them. Mitch Raemsch
From: NoEinstein on 23 Feb 2010 11:05
On Feb 16, 3:08 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Dear BURT: Objects can move along a LOCUS located, say, inside of the Swiss Cheese voids between galaxies where there is, practically speaking, no 'background' ether. Location in space isn't a determinate of the ether flow and density. It's only the locations close to massive objects where the ether flow and density are close to Einstein's GR equations. But note: The cause of gravity is FLOWING ETHER, not space-time variationswhich DON'T exist!!! NoEinstein > > On Feb 16, 10:37 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > On Feb 15, 8:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 15, 5:10 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 8, 4:41 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > you're getting fuzzier than Nein Eins Tein; > > > > > you're getting older! > > > > > > > > If there is a flow of the aether > > > > > > > it moves into and out > > > > > > > of the mass itself with no effect on > > > > > > > the mass. The mass *is* the aether > > > > > > > wherever it is. They are not separate things. > > > > > > You're getting warm! > > > > > > thus: > > > > > space-time is phase-space, period, and > > > > > is almost always an obfuscation -- but > > > > > Minkowski died <at about 45>, before he could qualify any > > > > > of his lagubrious slogans. > > > > > > > Vacuum; Space-time; Aether. > > > > > > thus: > > > > > what is a knotted polygon? > > > > > let me guess; if > > > > > the edges are links with universal joints > > > > > between them, then a hexagon can be "knotted" > > > > > in the conventional sense (of not being the unknot > > > > > or circle). > > > > > > --les OEuvres!http://wlym.com > > > > > Come again??? NoEinstein - Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > We are turning in the Earth's geometry. There is no drag. > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > So... Burt. Are you saying that people are INSIDE of the Earth? The > > only "geometry" of the Earth is defined by x, y, and z coordinates for > > the flattened sphere shape. NE - Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Albert Einstein's space-time continuum is comprized of these > infinitely small points with energy in them. > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - |