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From: spudnik on 8 Feb 2010 16:46 a-hem, from the top of your quoted *PT* article, "The null result of the celebrated 1887 Michelson- Morley experiment was surprising & difficult to explain," is just a gloss on their results, and that of their successors, even commented upon by Einstein (from Caltech). > http://arXiv.org/abs/0706.2031 > Physics Today 57(7) 40 (2004)http://physicstoday.org/vol-57/iss-7/p40.shtml > <http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/Walsworth/pdf/PT_Romalis0704.pdf> thus: space-time is phase-space, period, and is almost always an obfuscation -- but Minkowski died <at about 45>, before he could qualify any of his lagubrious slogans. > Vacuum; Space-time; Aether. thus: what is a knotted polygon? let me guess; if the edges are links with universal joints between them, then a hexagon can be "knotted" in the conventional sense (of not being the unknot or circle). --les OEuvres! http://wlym.com
From: glird on 9 Feb 2010 17:11 On Feb 8, 4:46 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > Minkowski died <at about 45>, before he could qualify any > of his lagubrious slogans. And b4 he UNDERSTOOD what they physically OR mathematically require or impose or mean. glird
From: BURT on 9 Feb 2010 17:20 On Feb 9, 2:11 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Feb 8, 4:46 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Minkowski died <at about 45>, before he could qualify any > > of his lagubrious slogans. > > And b4 he UNDERSTOOD what they physically OR mathematically require > or impose or mean. > > glird We can prove redshift but not black hole. Black holes violate Special Relativity's speed limit while falling in. There is a two time aether rate field. Two times are immatterial and flow. Mitch Raemsch
From: spudnik on 9 Feb 2010 22:07 aether; may not mean what y'think it be!... quantum foam, either. redshift, assuredly not neccesarily Dopplerian; anyone in space physics knows, there ain't no absolute/ Pascalian plenum -- not his fault, either, although Hubble succunbed to the einsteinmaniacs! > > And b4 he UNDERSTOOD what they physically OR mathematically require > > or impose or mean. > I say, I can prove redshift but not black hole. Black holes violate Special > Relativity's speed limit while falling in. There is a two time aether > rate field. Two times are immatterial and flow. thus: yeah, there is at least one pair of such "fixed" points, but I would apply Boyles law, minimally, to that situation. > It does not imply that the temperature at every point is the same as > at its antipode. Nor does it imply (contrary to Tom's claim) that > "identical weather conditions" occur at some point and its antipode -- > unless "identical weather conditions" simply means the same in some > one continuous function (temperature or wind speed or ...). --les OEuvres! http://wlym.com
From: NoEinstein on 15 Feb 2010 20:10
On Feb 8, 4:41 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > you're getting fuzzier than Nein Eins Tein; > you're getting older! > > > > If there is a flow of the aether > > > it moves into and out > > > of the mass itself with no effect on > > > the mass. The mass *is* the aether > > > wherever it is. They are not separate things. > > You're getting warm! > > thus: > space-time is phase-space, period, and > is almost always an obfuscation -- but > Minkowski died <at about 45>, before he could qualify any > of his lagubrious slogans. > > > Vacuum; Space-time; Aether. > > thus: > what is a knotted polygon? > let me guess; if > the edges are links with universal joints > between them, then a hexagon can be "knotted" > in the conventional sense (of not being the unknot > or circle). > > --les OEuvres!http://wlym.com Come again??? NoEinstein |