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From: spudnik on 15 Feb 2010 23:07 you rock, BURT -- Guitar Hero (tm) !! thus: all of Russell's paradoxes are illinguistic, which might be discerned from when he "lost it," after Godel's incompleteness thing; not as bad as Korbyzinski's pidgen, E-prime, though! thus: one does not have to ape "global" warming (from computerized simuacra & wholly selective reporting), to see that the climate is changing very rapidly, in the Anthropocene. > The lesson of climategate and now the IPCC's shoddy sourcing is that the > claims of the global warming lobby need far more rigorous scrutiny. thus: wow, neat problem; don't tell me what it is, but did you solve it? > >http://sites.google.com/site/tommy1729/home/eggs-probl thuis quoth: Simultaneously, EU Commission advisor Alberto Giovannini, who led the group that set up the technical transition from national currencies to the euro, is quoted in today's Italian daily Il Sole 24 Ore stating unabashedly: "History teaches us that empires are more efficient and achieve great prosperity, because the imperial model is successful with an extended geography." Although much attention has been mis-focused on Greece, LaRouche has emphasized that the epicenter of the European crisis is not Greece but Spain, and its Banco Santander. For example, of total German bank exposure in the eurozone of some 540 billion euros, Greek debt accounts for only 43 billion, or 8% of the total. Spain, by contrast, amounts to 240 billion euros, or 44% of the total. http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2010/lar_pac/100210lar_no_banco_bailout.html thus: yeah, massless rocks o'light, built a hugely impenetrable bosonic wall around EinsteinoNewtonianism! thus: the photographic record that I saw, in some rather eclectic compendium of Einsteinmania, seemed to show quite an effect, I must say; not that the usual interpretation is correct, though. Nude Scientist said: > > "Enter another piece of luck for Einstein. We now know that the light- > > bending effect was actually too small for Eddington to have discerned --Another Flower for Einstein: http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/spring01/Electrodynamics.html --les OEuvres! http://wlym.com --Stop Cheeny, Ricw & the ICC in Sudan; no more Anglo-american quagmires! http://larouchepub.com/pr/2010/100204rice
From: mpalenik on 16 Feb 2010 00:29 On Feb 15, 9:35 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Feb 15, 6:33 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics_u> wrote: > > > > > "M. M i c h a e l M u s a t o v" <marty.musa...(a)gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:e032bdfb-7819-4f06-ba82-48d436ad4e16(a)g28g2000prb.googlegroups.com.... > > On Feb 15, 5:45 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:> On Feb 15, 5:10 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 8, 4:41 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > you're getting fuzzier than Nein Eins Tein; > > > > > you're getting older! > > > > > > > > If there is a flow of the aether > > > > > > > it moves into and out > > > I> > > > > of the mass itself with no effect on > > I> > > > > the mass. The mass *is* the aether > > > > > > > > wherever it is. They are not separate things. > > > > > > You're getting warm! > > > I> > > thus: > > > > > space-time is phase-space, period, and > > > > > is almost always an obfuscation -- but > > > > > Minkowski died <at about 45>, before he could oqualify any > > > > > of his lagubrious slogans. > > > > > > > Vacuum; Space-time; Aether. > > > o> > > thus: > > > > > what is a knotted polygon? > > > > > let me guess; if > > > > > the edges are links with universal joints > > > > > between them, then a hexagon can be "knotted" > > > > > in the conventional sense (of not being the unknot > > it> > > or circle). > > > > > > --les OEuvres!http://wlym.com > > u> > > > > Come again??? NoEinstein - Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > u> > > > The strength of gravity inside the event horizon will cause faster > > > than light fall. We have no metric for it. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > what is 'light fall'? > > > ==================================== > > http://xkcd.com/265/-Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Light fall is into a slower C by lights time metric. It is light > entering slower time. > > MItch Raemsch Time waves oscillate between fast and slow, light falls and jumps. This is the key, repeated falls and jumps oscillating through repitition, through the time waves.
From: BURT on 16 Feb 2010 00:37 On Feb 15, 9:29 pm, mpalenik <markpale...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 15, 9:35 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 6:33 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics_u> wrote: > > > > "M. M i c h a e l M u s a t o v" <marty.musa...(a)gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:e032bdfb-7819-4f06-ba82-48d436ad4e16(a)g28g2000prb.googlegroups.com... > > > On Feb 15, 5:45 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:> On Feb 15, 5:10 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 8, 4:41 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > you're getting fuzzier than Nein Eins Tein; > > > > > > you're getting older! > > > > > > > > > If there is a flow of the aether > > > > > > > > it moves into and out > > > > I> > > > > of the mass itself with no effect on > > > I> > > > > the mass. The mass *is* the aether > > > > > > > > > wherever it is. They are not separate things. > > > > > > > You're getting warm! > > > > I> > > thus: > > > > > > space-time is phase-space, period, and > > > > > > is almost always an obfuscation -- but > > > > > > Minkowski died <at about 45>, before he could oqualify any > > > > > > of his lagubrious slogans. > > > > > > > > Vacuum; Space-time; Aether. > > > > o> > > thus: > > > > > > what is a knotted polygon? > > > > > > let me guess; if > > > > > > the edges are links with universal joints > > > > > > between them, then a hexagon can be "knotted" > > > > > > in the conventional sense (of not being the unknot > > > it> > > or circle). > > > > > > > --les OEuvres!http://wlym.com > > > u> > > > > > Come again??? NoEinstein - Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > u> > > > > The strength of gravity inside the event horizon will cause faster > > > > than light fall. We have no metric for it. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > what is 'light fall'? > > > > ==================================== > > > http://xkcd.com/265/-Hidequoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Light fall is into a slower C by lights time metric. It is light > > entering slower time. > > > MItch Raemsch > > Time waves oscillate between fast and slow, light falls and jumps. > This is the key, repeated falls and jumps oscillating through > repitition, through the time waves.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Time is point. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpalenik on 16 Feb 2010 00:39 On Feb 16, 12:37 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Feb 15, 9:29 pm, mpalenik <markpale...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 15, 9:35 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 15, 6:33 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics_u> wrote: > > > > > "M. M i c h a e l M u s a t o v" <marty.musa...(a)gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:e032bdfb-7819-4f06-ba82-48d436ad4e16(a)g28g2000prb.googlegroups.com... > > > > On Feb 15, 5:45 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:> On Feb 15, 5:10 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 4:41 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > you're getting fuzzier than Nein Eins Tein; > > > > > > > you're getting older! > > > > > > > > > > If there is a flow of the aether > > > > > > > > > it moves into and out > > > > > I> > > > > of the mass itself with no effect on > > > > I> > > > > the mass. The mass *is* the aether > > > > > > > > > > wherever it is. They are not separate things. > > > > > > > > You're getting warm! > > > > > I> > > thus: > > > > > > > space-time is phase-space, period, and > > > > > > > is almost always an obfuscation -- but > > > > > > > Minkowski died <at about 45>, before he could oqualify any > > > > > > > of his lagubrious slogans. > > > > > > > > > Vacuum; Space-time; Aether. > > > > > o> > > thus: > > > > > > > what is a knotted polygon? > > > > > > > let me guess; if > > > > > > > the edges are links with universal joints > > > > > > > between them, then a hexagon can be "knotted" > > > > > > > in the conventional sense (of not being the unknot > > > > it> > > or circle). > > > > > > > > --les OEuvres!http://wlym.com > > > > u> > > > > > > Come again??? NoEinstein - Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > u> > > > > > The strength of gravity inside the event horizon will cause faster > > > > > than light fall. We have no metric for it. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > what is 'light fall'? > > > > > ==================================== > > > > http://xkcd.com/265/-Hidequotedtext - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Light fall is into a slower C by lights time metric. It is light > > > entering slower time. > > > > MItch Raemsch > > > Time waves oscillate between fast and slow, light falls and jumps. > > This is the key, repeated falls and jumps oscillating through > > repitition, through the time waves.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Time is point. > > Mitch Raemsch But the question, then, is where?
From: BURT on 16 Feb 2010 01:11
On Feb 15, 9:39 pm, mpalenik <markpale...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 16, 12:37 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 9:29 pm, mpalenik <markpale...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 15, 9:35 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 15, 6:33 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics_u> wrote: > > > > > > "M. M i c h a e l M u s a t o v" <marty.musa...(a)gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:e032bdfb-7819-4f06-ba82-48d436ad4e16(a)g28g2000prb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Feb 15, 5:45 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:> On Feb 15, 5:10 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 4:41 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > you're getting fuzzier than Nein Eins Tein; > > > > > > > > you're getting older! > > > > > > > > > > > If there is a flow of the aether > > > > > > > > > > it moves into and out > > > > > > I> > > > > of the mass itself with no effect on > > > > > I> > > > > the mass. The mass *is* the aether > > > > > > > > > > > wherever it is. They are not separate things. > > > > > > > > > You're getting warm! > > > > > > I> > > thus: > > > > > > > > space-time is phase-space, period, and > > > > > > > > is almost always an obfuscation -- but > > > > > > > > Minkowski died <at about 45>, before he could oqualify any > > > > > > > > of his lagubrious slogans. > > > > > > > > > > Vacuum; Space-time; Aether. > > > > > > o> > > thus: > > > > > > > > what is a knotted polygon? > > > > > > > > let me guess; if > > > > > > > > the edges are links with universal joints > > > > > > > > between them, then a hexagon can be "knotted" > > > > > > > > in the conventional sense (of not being the unknot > > > > > it> > > or circle). > > > > > > > > > --les OEuvres!http://wlym.com > > > > > u> > > > > > > > Come again??? NoEinstein - Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > u> > > > > > > The strength of gravity inside the event horizon will cause faster > > > > > > than light fall. We have no metric for it. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > what is 'light fall'? > > > > > > ==================================== > > > > > http://xkcd.com/265/-Hidequotedtext- > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Light fall is into a slower C by lights time metric. It is light > > > > entering slower time. > > > > > MItch Raemsch > > > > Time waves oscillate between fast and slow, light falls and jumps. > > > This is the key, repeated falls and jumps oscillating through > > > repitition, through the time waves.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Time is point. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > But the question, then, is where?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - No buts. Space-time is composed of these infinitely small points and energy occupies them. |